mastanec Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Looks pretty good to me so far, there is alot of pipes and tank detail to be added Yeah, I know, but thats the beauty of it, see here for more detail: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GW Jim Posted October 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2013 I haven't done much with my foray into Italy at the moment. I'm getting more interested in the Czech locos, the goggles and the Bardot look great. I'm tempted to buy a Roco Bardot..... Evening Squeaky. Sorry to hear your interest in all things Italy, railways of course, is faltering but I find myself getting more into this system and less into the PRR. Can anyone suggest a good source for good photos of FS loco's both steam and tin cans? Any help would be most welcome as I like working off good photos of the prototype!! Have fun James. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Hi James, A search for FS Italia on Flickr seems to be a good, if random start. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GW Jim Posted October 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2013 Hello Nick. Many thanks for the link and yes this is a very good start. Also trying to locate some FS system books in the UK and its proving Fun!! Regards to all. James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamphillip Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 continental items are very nicely detailed even the old stuff, I have several fleischmann items and they run very well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Evening Squeaky. Sorry to hear your interest in all things Italy, railways of course, is faltering but I find myself getting more into this system and less into the PRR. Can anyone suggest a good source for good photos of FS loco's both steam and tin cans? Any help would be most welcome as I like working off good photos of the prototype!! Have fun James. Here's a few you could have a look at. http://www.trainfoto.eu/ http://www.trainpixel.com/index.php http://www.toshphotos.com/Railways/home/18225976_8KsbVn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Hi, on this web are Czech made (apart from very few) prototype locos, use translator, there is no English lang. option., I am using this site as a source of pictures for original liveries of locos. http://www.prototypy.cz/?ukaz=fotogalerie Germany and europe: http://www.bahnbilder.de/ A lot of railway pics are on flicker, some of them are pretty rare, but it wants all day sitting front of pc. And my hopper-dozator is still not finished, as I am waiting for some etched parts, its pain to order them from CZ, but if I want to have my models accurate then I need CZ parts too and since everything takes ages to make and post I started making another model from kit, inspiration here http://www.mnitka.com/vuz-eas-stavebnice-bramos-ex-vdv-modely-2/ how to create convincing load damage, only thing I realized after I have done quite dark finnish which would indicate heavy use, I made the patched sides liek the guy in teh link, however only to realize these waggons were in use only very few years in the part of era that I model, I'll keep that in mind for next model and will pretend this one was one of the first produced and got heavy use on coal trains to justify for the battered sides and dark shade Missing only side hooks, to arrive and complete with previous model. I also got very slight edge around teh decals, but its almost invisible, I expect it to go disapear with final layer of matt varnish. Kit Eas ČSD, H0 1:87, VDV/Bramos Primed with surfacer with load damage to sides with same Painted with vallejo model air (all shades mixed by me) and without flash, I live in Ireland and have a cheapo camera, its difficult to make proper pic without sunlight... Regards Marian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Hi Marian, I like how you do the dents in the sides, I've seen other modellers use heat to distort the sides but it's difficult to get the right amount of distortion that way. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Hi, please be gentle with me, first time on the 'Continental' section! I've become involved with generic continental models by default. I bought a Lilliput fireless 0-4-0 for my paper mill/tannery (undecided which yet!) on my US layout - but realised that it has buffers when I got it home. DOH!! It's such a nice little loco that I've decided not to butcher it and keep it and build a small shunting layout like my 'Peforia Narrows/Enigma Engineering' ones. So, I've bought some assorted European wagons at exhibition 2nd hand stands, only 6 so far, mostly from Piko but also a Fleischmann van. The Piko have NEM couplings (which I think are useless!) and the Fleischmann has their own. The loco has NEM but in pockets so I can fit the appropriate KD's. The wagons are older and so haven't got pockets but considering the low prices paid I'm quite happy to 'adapt' them for KD's. I've seen No. 16 but they seem to be discontinued and the 156/252 recommended as an alternative. Anyone used them and if so, how would you fit them to the older stock? Glue? Also wheels, old style deep flanges which I don't think will run on Code 75? (and look awful) What wheels would you recommend as replacements? Sorry to seem such a numpty but it's all new territory for me! PS - I've also just succumbed to an Electrotren saddle tank this afternoon. Couldn't resist it........................................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Rather than use continental wheels, unless you are thinking of P87, I suggest you try Alan Gibson. 10.5mm disk should do for most goods wagons. They will need a shorter axle from memory. Can't remember the length OTTOMH. The original Alan Gibson company was able to supply them, have not checked their current offerings. The variety of fittings concerned with couplings on continental stock can be a pain. Don't buy any Fleischmann locos without checking underneath. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 My interest into Italian railways may have gone, but my Interest in Czech railways is still there! I have so far bought 2 x HO Roco Bardotka locos and a couple of Roco coaches, next step is to get DCC sound for both the locos. This is one of the locos I have and it looks even better than in the picture! http://secure.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=RC72932 I was going to go with the ZIMO MX645R plus sounds from Artol unless anyone else knows of a better DCC/sound?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted November 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2013 They are very nice locos. Visiting Gauge master tomorrow so could be an expensive day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Hey all! @5050 see here how 1 German chap sorted pocket coupling on his old PIKO waggons, images speak for all http://www.nexusboard.net/sitemap/2408/guterwagen-ddr-piko-auf-nem-schacht-umrusten-t319621/ a lot of people whom own a lot this older rolling ofte rewheel and add the kinematics, as these waggons have still decent detail considering when they were made. I used to have some of those when I was small. No they won't run on code 75...(well, they will, but with appropriate sound effects)... When you re-wheel you may use the original metal brackets to hold the wheels, depending on their state, if they're too rusty you can replace them with self made or get spare ones cheaply (seen them online, can't find now), you may want to use some glue to fix those to the frame as they tend to slide off the middle pin that is a part of the frame itself and the wheels then grind te floor if they have too high flanges. Be careful with single side insulated wheels as the metal brackets that hold them touch the metal weight same goes for the old coupling, this gives trouble when waggons connected have different wheel orientation. This obviously does not apply with dual side insulated wheels or plastic coupling. There re many wheels manufacturers I buy from http://www.luck-feinmechanik.de/ they have both RP25 and finescale. For myself I think that the finescale wheels rather suit some well detailed etched brass model. Couplings, people mostly use the Fleischmann profi, or Roco short coupling or Roco universal that couples with both NEM coupling and also Maerklin/Trix one. Allthought I observe certain rise of interest in KD amongst continental modellers. A sketch of high sides open waggon here, i'll get this digitized in next days so the text can be copy pasted to translator. If you feel like scratchbuilding. This waggon was exported to various parts of Europe. http://www.mo-na-ko.net/images3/ZelezniceNaklVuzCSDVteH0_01.jpg http://www.mo-na-ko.net/images3/ZelezniceNaklVuzCSDVteH0_02.jpg http://www.mo-na-ko.net/images3/ZelezniceNaklVuzCSDVteH0_03.jpg http://www.mo-na-ko.net/images3/ZelezniceNaklVuzCSDVteH0_04.jpg I have my MTB Bardot fitted with ZIMO decoder, don't remember model and what sound is recorded in it, will check later. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ya23p8ic9viynb0/VIDEO0005.mp4 Nice to hear that Squeaky, just check if the loco is not fitted with tank from Goggles, there was some mix up in the factory! Marian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted November 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2013 I visited Gaugemaster today but no Bardotka on display and resisted asking as I spent enough buying all the turnouts for Dobris. Will be buying more from Ben Zerba though in the new year. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 New Slovak Dual System Electric Class 350 ZSSK (Železničná spoločnosť Slovensko/Slovak Railway Company) on the market! in H0 scale by ACME Italy http://www.modely.biz/modelova-zeleznice-2/loko-rady-350-zssk/ The prototype: During second half of 60'es when a lot of express trains in Czechoslovakia were hauled mostly by electric locomotives, the state railvays (CSD) were looking for more effective ways of service for elite express trains that run over both electrification systems (3000V DC/25kV AC). The development started in 1969. In 1974/75 2 prototypes were made by SKODA Plzen and presented to customer. Further 18 numbers of service ready locos were delivered during 1975. At that time these were our most powerfull locos. All of these were stationed in Bratislava Hlavna Stanica, Slovakia, where they remain in service to date still hauling international express trains across Czech republic Slovakia and Hungary (less those few ones that weren't so lucky to live such a long life). More about prototype here: http://www.prototypy.cz/?rada=350 (sorry, page not in English, yet again nice pics) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted November 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2013 Those electric locos are nick named GORILLAS due to their bulky looks and slanted cab windows. Not quite as distinctive as the GOGGLES though. There's some superb Czech and Slovak locos being produced these days. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 T669 CSD / 770 CD; ZSR; ZSSK in H0 by PIKO http://www.modely.biz/predobjednavky-2013/loko-t669-060-csd/ More than 8000 units of the real loco were produced! It is one of the most largely manufactured locos in the world. PIKO is going up big time lately, ROCO has this model announced for last few years, PIKO annunced it a year ago and we have almost finished model at this time. Compare to ROCO its supposed to have only 4 axle driven, but the detail on the body seems well produced. However compare to ROCO, PIKO has the loco built. ROCO is losing it big time too, they only see the profit now, and quality and customer focus went down. Edit: its called Cmelak (CZ), Cmeliak (SK) - Bumble Bee EDIT 11/12/2013 painted version of the locos (Czechoslovak - top and Russian - bottom), analog version on sale this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2013 In relation to the above locos, would these have been seen on a branch line? Freight only or would they also have handled passenger. Sorry about what may be a stupid question( I have many others I am sure ) I have also seen these described as CD era 5 but appears to be in CSD livery. I am sure I am making this harder than it needs to be!!!!! Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 In relation to the above locos, would these have been seen on a branch line? Freight only or would they also have handled passenger. Sorry about what may be a stupid question( I have many others I am sure ) I have also seen these described as CD era 5 but appears to be in CSD livery. I am sure I am making this harder than it needs to be!!!!! Rob Hey Rob, Freight/heavy shunting only, in the past sometimes seen on passenger or express train, todaly scarcely during track works when overhead is not available then this loco is added afront of the train main electric loco, or pushes the train thru from behind (does not require coupling). On lines with larger track load only, the loco weights 114tons. Yet its main domain were large freight stations where great adhesion at low speeds and braking abilities played huge role. Piko has decided at the last moment to produce CSD instead CD model based on original prototype produced in 1968-69 era III-IV and is already marked on Piko's web as not available. Wow, 2 weeks and sold out... 5th era CD/ZSR is to come in next year. I may buy either, for this price, only to motorise my model from etched metal thats been lying at the bottom of my wardrobe for some time. Roco is working on the same model, and perhaps T669.1 derived from above T669.0 the advisors will try to coordinte both manufacturers so they do not produce same plate numbers. Roco will have all 6 axles driven, Piko has only 4. Here is a great site about them in English made by a German guy. http://www.hobbyseiten.de/T669/index.html Regards Marian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks Marian. Looks a nice model and as you say, the price is right. Rang Gauge master today to ask about the 770 and also to enquire about Czech items in general. I fancied an early Christmas present.However the lad I spoke to did not seem very familiar with the item and could give no time for delivery for the 770. In fact he didn't seem that interested full stop and as such I didn't ask about other items let alone buy anything. With the tickets now booked to the Czech Republic, I think we'll leave it until we are there. Probably catching the train to Prague so we will visit a couple of the shops. On the basis of my first experience with Gaugemaster, I don't think I will have much to do with them in the future. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted December 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2013 Gaugemaster is fine when in the store but not that enamoured with ordering. I am still waiting for a Bardotka ordered last January. I doubt it will ever arrive. Also they are not the cheapest but occasionally there are some good deals. Luckily we are down that way regularly so do visit them and buy quite a bit over the counter. Just keep an eye on the Prague shops opening times and make sure you have plenty of spare space in your bags for purchases! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks Ian. I was just a bit disappointed in the response I received. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastanec Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 For me it does not really matter whether I shop from UK or or CZ, postage to Ireland comes up about the same. But guys, where to look for Czech stuff? Yes, exactly where you go for holidays that you are talking about in your post Just keep an eye on the Prague shops opening times and make sure you have plenty of spare space in your bags for purchases! Definitely !!! There are regular model exchange meetings in Prague, Brno and other cities, there is the proper Czech stuff, well some is proper. Body shells resin casts for locos and waggons, accessories, scratchbuilding parts ect.. I so far I have bought my waggon kits from Bramos whom offer their product line also as kits in various part of production. From raw plastic mouldings to painted or painted and decorated kits. I'll post some pics later on, need to make some fisrt. Here is an example of kits of no longer existing company VDV whose production has now been taken over by Bramos. Both can be seen built in my previous posts in this thread. They are also preparing an ex-VDV model box car Gags/Hadgs, which I am looking forward to get too.There are more like these, plus some decent drawings and plans that could be used for scratchbuilding, some can be bougth online, some only on above mentioned meetings. Few former Easter Germany manufacturers offered few models, but times have changed and demand on scale precission, quality and functionality has gone up. Only recently, manufacturers like Roco and Piko have turned to those parts again and offered some models, quite decent locos and few vaggons. Here's the problem, we have traction, but not much to pull, there's lack of trully Czech(oslovak) waggons. I do understand this requires tooling, resesarch to make these and a lot more, but the demand is there, sadly pretty much anything with logo CSD/CD/ZSR sells even if it never wore that logo in real life. Edit: Yes there are small series manufacturer, for example IS model whose locos cost 1000EUR in digital sound version, example T679.0, its a beauty but a grand for resin cast on Roco chassis is waay too much. Shes a beauty tho, or you can have Steam Skoda 556.0 Stokr for 2x as much Another page where I get inspired: http://ostramo.parostroj.net/oa/2013_Hluk/2013_Hluk.html I've had a look at your Czech layouts Ian, very nice work. It's nice to see interest in Czech prototype outside of its homeland. Regards Marian PS: I'm well aware, that I make long posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 That's a beauty, I was wondering if anyone did a T679 but 1000euro! thats way beyond my modelling pocket You are right about wagons, they seem to come out but in very small batches, if you don't buy them straight away you miss them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2013 Lots of information as usual Marian. Thank you. I am now looking to get something from MTB, maybe a 721 or a 740 but will wait until I get to CZ. However I still like the look of the piko 770/ 771... A lot of the photos show a 740 with a train made up of what I think are rail car trailers. Would these be 010 trailers? I assume these are available as resin kits? Only a few weeks away until we go though. Does any one know of any shops around Tabor ( I am looking on the net but just wondering if anyone has knowledge) . We will have a car so can travel a bit. If not then we will jump on the train to Prague and explore... If nothing else then I may order whilst in Czech and get it sent to the address we will be at for the week. Further apologies for multiple questions. I am hoping to pick up a few reference books which my other half can translate on our return.... Rob . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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