Some questions on 16-ton mineral wagons

[hmrspaul]

22 hours ago, CME and Bottlewasher said:

That's interesting and perhaps we'll never know why - I came across similar conundrums in the railways but in different areas of operations when I worked for them.

 

A photo (hereunder at the bottom of the Post) of one of my previous efforts (nearly twenty years old). Not a 16 tonner, but a white elephant, the 24.5T - that, so I'm led to believe, wouldn't fit under coal shutes - what were they thinking of?!

Lovely cross section and variety, all superbly modelled too!

 

 

 

I was going to do my usual moan about the white diagonal not going to the top of the end door, as in BR instructions. But then looked at my photo collection and realised many of the later build appear to have been painted like this from new. It looks like Lot 3244 built at Ashford have this 'incorrect' style. For example this one has been corrected, but the outline of the corner to corner stripe can still be seen. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralmeo/e2055214 or more clearly https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralmeo/e2f9122c9  This appears to continue with the later Ashford and Shildon built lots. 

Don't you just love BR liveries! It's not as if it became a new standard way of showing the end door on other minerals. Although corner to corner does appear occasionally on 16ton minerals most, including the numerous 1970s rebodies have it going correctly to near the top hinge position - as do the 21ton new bodies given new numbers as https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/mdorebuiltrenumber

 

Paul

 

 

 

[CME and Bottlewasher]

On 14/11/2021 at 16:06, hmrspaul said:

I was going to do my usual moan about the white diagonal not going to the top of the end door, as in BR instructions. But then looked at my photo collection and realised many of the later build appear to have been painted like this from new. It looks like Lot 3244 built at Ashford have this 'incorrect' style. For example this one has been corrected, but the outline of the corner to corner stripe can still be seen. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralmeo/e2055214 or more clearly https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralmeo/e2f9122c9  This appears to continue with the later Ashford and Shildon built lots. 

Don't you just love BR liveries! It's not as if it became a new standard way of showing the end door on other minerals. Although corner to corner does appear occasionally on 16ton minerals most, including the numerous 1970s rebodies have it going correctly to near the top hinge position - as do the 21ton new bodies given new numbers as https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/mdorebuiltrenumber

 

Paul

 

 

 

Hi Paul,

 

Thanks for the insights - every day is a school day. For me/the layout the wagon is a one off, I rescued it as a part built second hand/slightly damaged project - in terms of the build (or the parts I had to attend to) there's things I'd do differently next time as part of my continuous improvement. Having said that, as a layout model, hopefully it still suffices (I'm my own, biggest, critic).

 

I did copy it, the livery and most of the weathering, from  prototype photos - I can't recall which book (sorry). IIRC I chalked 'Spoil' as an antagonistic joke, again, iirc, such loads were forbidden? But that's also from the mists of time and Long Covid, now, hampers me in such matters/my memory. 

 

Thanks again, atvb,

 

Martin