David Jackson Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I am currently building a pair of 'Dutch' Vans. One is to be of the original steam generator type, one of which is now running with the RPSI. The other is to be of the modified EGV type for use with the ex BR Mk 2 coaches. I have plenty of information regarding the original steam generator vans, including roof detail, but I have no roof details of the EGV version. If anyone can help with any pictures with roof detail for the EGV vans, I would be most grateful. Progress to date for the EGV. Built entirely from plasticard, except for the roof, which utilises two Triang Hornby LWB goods brake van roofs to get the basic arc for the roof. Plastic strip makes up the extra width. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Jackson Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 Progress to date of the GSV. The GSV is not entirely scratchbuilt, rather it is part recycled. Last year at an exhibition, I picked up an old Triang Track Cleaning wagon, with no roof and a broken bogie, for £1.00. Later in the year at another exhibition, I picked up an old Triang Transcontinental Reefer Boxcar with a broken roof also for £1.00. The bogies were used to repair the track cleaning wagon, and the roof, after repair and adjustment, was also used on the track cleaner. That left a perfectly good Reefer body. After checking the dimensions, it was found to be 1mm longer than a Dutch Van, but the width was fine. A bit of work with a fine saw and a file, saw the height reduced and the raised detail on the sides and ends removed, leaving a very useable shell for a Dutch Van. Construction then followed that as described for the EGV. The GSV is currently sitting on Jouef MK3 coach bogies, but these will ultimately be replaced with something more suitable at a later date. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Nice looking job David, hard to believe that it started out as an American style boxcar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Jackson Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 After three months of being on the back burner, while looking for suitable materials, and looking for decent views of the roof detail, the 'steam heat' Dutch van has now received it's coat of primer. The grey primer, from Halfords, would normally reveal any imperfections in the construction of the vehicle, but I am glad to say the primer has revealed nothing worth talking about. The next step is to finish it off in RPSI livery, glaze it and finish the underframe. The ETH version has also been on the back burner, for much the same reasons, and work has restarted on it, but it is a lot further behind. From refrigerator van to heating van:- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden-agenda Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Excellent work and great detail well done, more pics as you progress with painting please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandbridgejct Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 NIce model. Some information for you about EGVs and GSVs. BREL Mk 2 and 3 coaches used by CIE / IR / IE had electric heating and lighting which was powered by an electricity generating van (EGV). Cravens coaches and some others had steam heating and 'train line' electric lighting, which was provided from a generating steam van (GSV) producing both steam and electricity. These coaches had a TL suffix. I think they could be mixed in a train with other stock provided the TL coaches were next to the GSV, but I'm not sure on that. Ordinary stock had steam heating provided from a heating and luggage van (HLV), but ligthing was provided by a dynamo beneath the floor driven from a coach axle in the time honoured manner. So the 3 principal types of van in the late 70s, early 80s, which was the time I was paying most attention, were the HLV, GSV and EGV. The Dutch vans started off as GSVs, and you'd see them with Cravens stock. They were converted to EGVs to work with 2nd hand BR Mk2b stock as the older 1950s coaching stock was withdrawn. But you probably knew all of that already. Good luck with the rest of the build. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Bear Digital Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Youtube vid of the steam vans showing the roof area quite well here...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heIlc873Hvc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Jackson Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Thanks Hairy Bear for the link. Very useful picture. However, as usual, if you want to build a model, get a picture of the actual vehicle you want to build. The roof detail on the van in the vid is actually different to that on the van I have almost finished. I did manage to get a good picture of the roof detail on the RPSI van, and used that. The difference is not major, and most people would never notice, but it would have bugged me had I got it wrong. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirley Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Excellent progress David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Bear Digital Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks Hairy Bear for the link. Very useful picture. However, as usual, if you want to build a model, get a picture of the actual vehicle you want to build. The roof detail on the van in the vid is actually different to that on the van I have almost finished. I did manage to get a good picture of the roof detail on the RPSI van, and used that. The difference is not major, and most people would never notice, but it would have bugged me had I got it wrong. David Any chance of you posting the pictures you took of the van as I would find them useful for my own build of the Silver Fox model ?. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Jackson Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 I have sent you a PM on the subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Jackson Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Almost completed. Just glazing and underframe detail to do. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirley Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 It's turned out really well David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Jackson Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 I have to say, I am really pleased the way it has turned out, even down to only having the lining on one side. Don't know the reasoning behind that. The RPSI can't be short of lining, as later vehicles have been fully lined out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Nothing more than volunteer worker's time.... it'll be done eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGrange Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Nothing more than volunteer worker's time.... it'll be done eventually. Certain locos can now heat the train themselves so its not needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davep101 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Looks really good david, i have a shapeways, n gauge one to build up, ill post pics when i get round to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Jackson Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 After three years of being on and off the back burner, the EGV is finally complete. The long delay has been mainly due to lack of roof detail, and being overtaken by other projects, but eventually sufficient information was obtained for the build to proceed.The pictures show the completed van, firstly in bare plastic, then in Halfords grey primer, and finally fully finished and painted.The van is entirely made from plastic sheet, rod and strip. The only commercial parts used, were the two Hornby brake van roofs used to form the basic roof profile, the gangways are by Jouef, and the buffers are by MJT. As with the earlier RPSI van, the EGV is running on Jouef Mk 3 bogies, until such time as something more suitable comes along.The final two pictures are of a couple of Hornby Mk 2s reliveried, to go with the EGV. As per the prototype vehicles, the InterCity logo is located in different positions on the coach sides. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirley Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Your attention to detail is self-evident as usual David. The door construction and filler cap recess caught my eye. More postings please, you have been away for too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
killucan2 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Very nice work on the van,try email john at silverfox re the bogies and see can he help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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