Jump to content

Giles

Denton Brook 7mm Industrial

Recommended Posts

I must say your Bagnall looks very much at home - very reminiscent of BICC in Kent!

 

Paul A. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ah... 'Sir Tom' etc.....! A very happy coincidence? I think they must have handled some quite large drums there, as their wagons required bars in between, which mine don't (for the diameter) unless there was some other reason requiring separation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For the sake of tidiness and continuity, here's the video of the trial set-up of the transfer crane in action (I know most people have seen it on other threads, but this is the layout it is destined for....)

 

  • Like 14

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been working on one of the other points (which will be ballasted, and are therefore conventionally made with C&L chairs and sleepers).

 

As you may know, I've recently got back into silver-soldering in building 7mm stuff (I've been silversoldering bigger stuff and smaller stuff all my life, but like most people, revert to using soft solder on almost everything model railway simply out of habit!). All the valve gear and slide bar assemblies on the Garratt were silver-soldered, together with all the valve gear rivets - which was soooo much easier than soft soldering..... And so I've been continuing this into the point making as well.

 

The nose of the points is silver soldered, together with the 0.8mm nickel silver bar, which will tie in the wing rails. Apart from being extremely easy to do, the value of silver soldering all these, is that when I come to (soft) solder the wing rails to the bar etc., there is absolutely no risk of anything coming adrift and causing me difficulties.

The silver-solder melts at around 720 degrees C.

 

124c6efc704c77781c7528175d5258da_zpsdb08

 

78db135568bfe0e6445eae8ffdf2857e_zpsb8c0

Edited by Giles
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ah... 'Sir Tom' etc.....! A very happy coincidence? I think they must have handled some quite large drums there, as their wagons required bars in between, which mine don't (for the diameter) unless there was some other reason requiring separation.

Can't be 'Sir Tom' or 'Woto', they were both 3'6" gauge when at BICC :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Giles

 

This is looking very nice. Looking forward to see how it develops .....

 

By the way, what size are the scenic boards?

 

Stephen

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Stephen - They're 8' x 2' 10" ( 2 off 4' x 2' 10") - as much as I can possibly store and fit into the car!!!

 

 

Meanwhile, I've built one of the proper two points. The stock rails have a joggle to each of them to take the blade. This was done easily by putting in two bends with pliers, side-by-side (then dressing the top down flat again)

 

IMG_2892_zpsa313e272.jpg

 

 

The blades needed a break to allow them to pivot, as they were too short to rely of simple flexing. I therefore made simple fish-plates from nickel-silver (etch off-cuts) and silver-soldered them to the chaired rail, drilled out a 0.5 hole with the blade placed in the fish plates, and then put some 0.5mm wire through the lot, and put a touch of silver solder on both ends of the wire. This gave me a little movement on the blade, while holding it nicely vertical.

 

IMG_2895_zps34b3934f.jpg

 

 

0.8mm nickel silver wire was silver-soldered to the tip of the blade to engage with the tie bar - which is a piece of 00 copper paxolin sleeper, with two pieces of small diameter tube  soldered to it. Once the blades are in position in the tie-bar, the ends of the 0.8mm NS were bent over at 90 degrees to retain it all, and then trimmed off.

IMG_2888_zps387ed8c1.jpg

 

I know it's not a wonderfully correct scale point, but I think it will read correctly, and mechanically it's OK

Edited by Giles
  • Like 12

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looking forward to watching this one grow Giles, and will the garratt be running on it?

Cheers, Dave.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh yes.....! And of course what isn't clear on the drawing is the 1:15 gradient up from the 'main- line'......

It should get those engines rocking....

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looking forward to watching this one grow Giles, and will the garratt be running on it?

Cheers, Dave.

And the class 37?

 

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And the class 37?

 

Bob

Well, that might rumble in on the main line, from time-to-time - though I dare say I'll have to re-profile the wheels, which will be a nuisance - but we'll see...... (It would be more useful with finer profiles, of course)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

... And I've finished the third (and final) standard Guage point. That might seem like not a lot to everyone else, but it seems to take me forever - so it's a nice hurdle to have jumped. Baseboards next, then some track can go down!

 

e24f1114cef330a01699f79c39f699be_zps6afa

Edited by Giles
  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Giles can you let me know where to get the Silver Solder paste as featured in you video please. Also does it work well on brass?

 

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Bob,

 

I get it from Cooksons

http://www.cooksongold.com/category_select.jsp?query=Silver+Solder+Paste+10g+-+Easy%2C+Syringe&queryFromSuggest=true

 

But you can also get in from Amazon if you do a search......

 

Yes - it works very well with brass, nickel-silver, copper, steel etc.. Smear it on where you want it, and away you go (after a clean with emery of glass-fibre brush etc.)

 

You'll find it may change the sequence of your assembly work a bit - but it really does make life easier.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks Giles. I have used Silver solder in my engineering career, but never considered it in modeling.

 

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Giles,

Just stumbled across this, will be watching with interest.

When should I pencil in the first operator training session?

 

Martin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's got to be 18 months plus...... Time to warm up your fingers for crane operation as well as lorries, Garratts, and anything else I can organise for you both!

 

(You wouldn't like it too simple....)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Trying the track for size and 'layout'

 

4mm ply track-bed to go down next

 

IMG_2914_zpsbfp7yar5.jpg

  • Like 8

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.