landscapes Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hi All Can anyone help? I have just seen the new Hornby K Class pullmans on Gilbert's Peterborough North layout, Regarding the Queen of Scots Pullman formation, was there a particular order in which the pullman cars were positioned. Also was there always regular type of pullman car car located directly behind the locomotive tender at the head of the train or was it a case of which ever car was put there at the time the formation was made up. I am looking at the period 1957-1961. Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted July 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2015 1957: 78, 68, Juana, Belinda, Cynthia, 83, 79. 1958 from Kings Cross: Leeds 2nd kitchen (older K type?) 1st kitchen Glasgow 2nd brake 2nd kitchen 1st parlour 1st parlour 1st kitchen 2nd parlour 2nd kitchen 2nd brake There were a few variations to this with the odd car being changed on some days and/or in some seasons. Typical Pullman formations had brakes at the ends and grouped classes together. This is essentially what you see above in the 1957 formation (78 & 79) and in the main part of the 1958 formation (Glasgow). Kitchen cars were positioned to provide catering for the adjacent cars. Formations would have stayed together most of the time rather than being remarshalled. If you want to get things spot on though you'll need a photograph. The 1958 formation above is copied from the excellent LNER Passenger Trains and Formations 1923-68 by Steve Banks and Clive Carter. The 1957 formation is from the series of Pullman Profile books by Antony Ford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 1957: 78, 68, Juana, Belinda, Cynthia, 83, 79. 1958 from Kings Cross: Leeds 2nd kitchen (older K type?) 1st kitchen Glasgow 2nd brake 2nd kitchen 1st parlour 1st parlour 1st kitchen 2nd parlour 2nd kitchen 2nd brake There were a few variations to this with the odd car being changed on some days and/or in some seasons. Typical Pullman formations had brakes at the ends and grouped classes together. This is essentially what you see above in the 1957 formation (78 & 79) and in the main part of the 1958 formation (Glasgow). Kitchen cars were positioned to provide catering for the adjacent cars. Formations would have stayed together most of the time rather than being remarshalled. If you want to get things spot on though you'll need a photograph. The 1958 formation above is copied from the excellent LNER Passenger Trains and Formations 1923-68 by Steve Banks and Clive Carter. The 1957 formation is from the series of Pullman Profile books by Antony Ford. Hi teaky Many thanks for the reply, that has been very helpful. Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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