Staffordshire Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Hello, another obscure question .... Could anyone please inform me of the Hawthorn Leslie works number for 15100. (The number that would have been on the worksplate) Many thanks, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegr Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) This RCTS photo site has a few shots of it and says its 3853 of 1936. I must say that HL works plate is huge on the cab sides, were they trying to get one over on the GWR? https://www.rcts.org.uk/features/archive/search.htm?subtype=1&company=GWR Edited September 5, 2015 by stevegr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CloggyDog Posted September 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) All my shunter books concur that the works number for 15100 was HL 3853/35 The works place is oval, text top and bottom with a simple '1935' across the middle. none of the photos I have access to (printed or web) are clear enough to fully make it out, but similar plates on the LMS versions of similar vintage show the plates to read: ENGLISH ELECTRIC 1935 HAWTHORN LESLIE so the actual works number is NOT featured on the plate. Clearest pic I've found is plate 14 (LMS 7073) in the older Marsden Shunters book (OPC) - Plate 35 in the same book is the best one of GWR No.2 (15100) and, looking closer, plate details are identical to that described. Edited September 5, 2015 by CloggyDeux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 Thank you both very much, that answers the question. I had heard that the works number was NOT on the plate, but required it to be confirmed. Many thanks, Ian PS. If you could answer my question in post concerning NBL works number of 90763 I would be eternally grateful. Cheers, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegr Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) I think this shot of 15100 covers it! http://www.railphotoarchive.org/rpc_zoom.php?img=0146020019000&aid=&_FACT=125&_UP=25&InFrame=&_PAGE= Also on the question of the Austerity and many other BR locos this site might help.http://www.britishsteam.com/And it does because you get to this page on 90763.http://www.britishsteam.com/php_wd/usr_riddles.php?PME_sys_fl=1&PME_sys_fm=0&PME_sys_sfn[0]=9&PME_sys_sfn[1]=23&PME_sys_sfn[2]=20&PME_sys_sfn[3]=-11&PME_sys_sfn[4]=2&PME_sys_sfn[5]=6&PME_sys_sfn[6]=-1&PME_sys_sfn[7]=-22&PME_sys_sfn[8]=13&PME_sys_sfn[9]=19&PME_sys_sfn[10]=14&PME_sys_sfn[11]=-3&PME_sys_sfn[12]=-26&PME_sys_sfn[13]=4&PME_sys_sfn[14]=12&PME_sys_sfn[15]=-10&PME_sys_sfn[16]=0&PME_sys_operation=PME_op_View&PME_sys_rec=1072But while looking I could not see any sign of BR locos in the main having works plates fitted.It seems to be a preserved or non BR fitment to me, brass shortages during the war? Edited September 5, 2015 by stevegr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 Thanks Stevegr, that certainly answers my question. There are some photos in the 'The Book of the WD 2-8-0s and 2-10-0s', that show the diamond NBL works plates on some locos, during BR times. Although situated in a strange place, normally on the right hand side of the loco above the bracket for the middle connecting rod., Cheers, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2015 This RCTS photo site has a few shots of it and says its 3853 of 1936. All my shunter books concur that the works number for 15100 was HL 3853/35 There's only one way to sort this out......................... Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CloggyDog Posted September 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2015 There's only one way to sort this out......................... Mike. Yeah... I could breach copywrite and scan/post the pic of GWR #2 from CJM's book which shows the plate and it's 1935 date... but I won't ;P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegr Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Personally Alan, somehow I don't need to have a fight. I had a look at his posts this evening and guess what they all try to make negative responses in a thread. I've not been on here that long despite my join date, but since I have been I've noticed all he does is try to make arguments by daft posts in a thread that were not. The thing here is to ignore them, it makes up for anyone who moderates on here not noticing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2015 Personally Alan, somehow I don't need to have a fight. I had a look at his posts this evening and guess what they all try to make negative responses in a thread. I've not been on here that long despite my join date, but since I have been I've noticed all he does is try to make arguments by daft posts in a thread that were not. The thing here is to ignore them, it makes up for anyone who moderates on here not noticing! Oooh, touchy. I'd get your sense of humour bypass sorted out first. A lot of us know each other personally on here and enjoy having a joke. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiptonian Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 In "The British Internal Combustion Locomotive 1894-1940" by Brian Webb, it is quoted as HL3853/35. Confusion may have arisen as the loco was not delivered to GWR until April 1936. So that's it. If anyone starts fighting, I'm going to run home and tell my mommy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 In "The British Internal Combustion Locomotive 1894-1940" by Brian Webb, it is quoted as HL3853/35. Confusion may have arisen as the loco was not delivered to GWR until April 1936. So that's it. If anyone starts fighting, I'm going to run home and tell my mommy. in the C J Marsden book it was delivered in late 1935 to Swindon Work then its 1st operating Allocation at Old Oak Common in April 1936 I built a 4mm GWR No2 model from the Judith Edge kit the build is here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=60&hilit=gnr&start=500 4mm GWR Loco No2 built from the Judith Edge kit fitted with a Highlevel Gears 108_1 gearbox by brian mosby, on Flickr 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Well as I started the topic, thought I should post a photo of the finished 15100 ... Hope you like them, comments welcome Edited February 4, 2019 by Staffordshire Re-attach photos 7 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry.ecmr Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Couple of photos of my model on 'Earl's Court' Based around a Bachmann 08 with my own styrene cab and other parts, cut using a Cameo Silhouette. Fitted with DCC sound from John Gymer at Youchoos 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardoN Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) @mozzermodels how easy to use cameo to create these vinyl decals? I'm in the market for a vinyl cutter to do some jobs. I'm on the fence what kind of machine to use. I've looking on the internet and there's nothing just hype. Finally I came across a blog that looks like the real deal. Since i'm leaning towards curio or cameo it was the perfect comparison. Have you guys seen this silhouette curio vs cameo? Is Cameo that hard to learn and that buggy that you can't use the bluetooth connection? Edited October 2, 2019 by RichardoN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 4 hours ago, RichardoN said: @mozzermodels how easy to use cameo to create these vinyl decals? I'm in the market for a vinyl cutter to do some jobs. I'm on the fence what kind of machine to use. I've looking on the internet and there's nothing just hype. Finally I came across a blog that looks like the real deal. Since i'm leaning towards curio or cameo it was the perfect comparison. Have you guys seen this silhouette curio vs cameo? Is Cameo that hard to learn and that buggy that you can't use the bluetooth connection? Hi Richardo the lining is HMRS transfers & the No2 is if i remember Right fox transfers i have never used a cameo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed82CB Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 09/09/2015 at 15:41, mozzer models said: in the C J Marsden book it was delivered in late 1935 to Swindon Work then its 1st operating Allocation at Old Oak Common in April 1936 I built a 4mm GWR No2 model from the Judith Edge kit the build is here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=60&hilit=gnr&start=500 4mm GWR Loco No2 built from the Judith Edge kit fitted with a Highlevel Gears 108_1 gearbox by brian mosby, on Flickr the link appears to be broken! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, Shed82CB said: the link appears to be broken! sorry about that but but the link was posted back in 2015 then it was on a old version of Rmweb so the link no longer works on the newest Rmweb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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