Knuckles Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) The Cambrian 'Albion' Small Passenger Class and Furness E1 4 wheeled tenders are now available with the 4 chassis options, 00, EM & P4 & 7mm 0 Gauge. Details in the product descriptions. Very happy with how these have turned out. The brake handle and railings will be separate items due to them being so thin, this way it reduces a print fail risk. 4mm WSF/BSF: https://www.shapeways.com/product/88HFLXKE7/cambrian-albion-spc-tender-wsf https://www.shapeways.com/product/SBFRRXRAT/furness-e1-tender-wsf?optionId=63361926 4mm FUD/FXD: https://www.shapeways.com/product/42T23JHEQ/cambrian-albion-spc-tender-fud-fxd https://www.shapeways.com/product/VAU4FS5DA/furness-e1-tender-fud-fxd 4mm Chassis' (Both materials): https://www.shapeways.com/product/2VMVTVENC/furness-e1-cambrian-spc-tender-00-chassis?optionId=63361584 https://www.shapeways.com/product/23E9CDNJ3/furness-e1-cambrian-spc-tender-em-chassis?optionId=63361588 https://www.shapeways.com/product/BT9VSUUWM/furness-e1-cambrian-spc-tender-p4-chassis?optionId=63361592 7mm Versions: Chassis https://www.shapeways.com/product/YVKKB5D2M/7mm-fr-e1-cambrian-spc-tender-0-chassis?optionId=63370533 Cambrian Albion Tender Body https://www.shapeways.com/product/2ASEDJLSC/7mm-cambrian-albion-spc-tender Furness E1 Tender Body https://www.shapeways.com/product/K8YLNRZ65/7mm-furness-e1-tender Both tenders at a glance are very similar but there are notable differences. The chassis are common to both bodies, other than the brake pads I have decided not to model the brake gear this time due to a lack of clear photographs and drawings for them. Visually I can see quite clearly how the majority of the arrangements work (similar to a basic wagon with cam arrangement) but to model them accurately with the current lacking info would likely result in much guess work and I'd rather not do that. Plus being thin they again run risk of print fails so brass rod and such like is the best option currently. The following picture is a quick collection I made of the Furness version shortly before splitting it down into component parts. The brake pads are still odd and there are two filler caps on the top, obviously you would pick the ones you need from sprue. Also the curved coal divider is optional so you can discard it if need be. Edited August 11, 2017 by Knuckles 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Above post now edited with links to the 7mm versions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 www.shapeways.com/shops/sparkshotcustomcreationsscc… A0 Prototype Pacific RANGE RELEASED. Follow up pictures, video and maybe some more items may follow. Shown is just one of the Full shells, currently the only one although I will be uploading a few. However MOST combinations you'll have to make yourself. I know this is a niche subject yet important to me either way. :thumb Showing a Full loco shell, a few more will follow however MOST combinations you'll have to make yourself. Details within. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Now as a hyperlink... https://www.shapeways.com/shops/sparkshotcustomcreationsscc Luke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) That goes to the main site. I was trying to link to the A0 section but the link broke. Will fix it later. Edited October 16, 2017 by Knuckles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Brilliant and marvellous models! Any chance we could see the L&YR Class 28 Mogul Experiment in N Scale, please? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Brilliant and marvellous models! Any chance we could see the L&YR Class 28 Mogul Experiment in N Scale, please? Sure, will get on it tomorrow. Re-scaling is my current priority anyway. It is my aim to eventually have all the locomotives available in all the 3 main scales. N, 4mm (all 3 gauges) and 0. I do understand the difference between N's 1:148 and the 2FS 1:152 difference in case anyone is worried. Important point. I will re-scale and tweak the loco and tender bodies to N but unless you are comfortable with a 3D printed fixed axle chassis in such a small size I don't think it would be a good idea to re-scale them simply because I cannot test the running qualities. I do some N modelling but currently haven't tried to build a working chassis in the scale. For that small is likely currently beyond my modelling ability where micro bushes, muffs and gears are involved. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Most people are comfortable melding an RTR chassis to a N body anyway but I'd rather be sure of your (everyone's collective) intents. Edited October 29, 2017 by Knuckles 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Sure, will get on it tomorrow. Re-scaling is my current priority anyway. It is my aim to eventually have all the locomotives available in all the 3 main scales. N, 4mm (all 3 gauges) and 0. I do understand the difference between N's 1:148 and the 2FS 1:152 difference in case anyone is worried. Important point. I will re-scale and tweak the loco and tender bodies to N but unless you are comfortable with a 3D printed fixed axle chassis in such a small size I don't think it would be a good idea to re-scale them simply because I cannot test the running qualities. I do some N modelling but currently haven't tried to build a working chassis in the scale. For that small is likely currently beyond my modelling ability where micro bushes, muffs and gears are involved. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Most people are comfortable melding an RTR chassis to a N body anyway but I'd rather be sure of your (everyone's collective) intents. Great! I might either a Fowler 4F Chassis or a Crab Chassis with the cylinders and valve gear removed and that would fit in fine. Which do you think could work best? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I honestly do not know. I haven't a 4F or Crab in N to experiment with. I think a Crab might be best as the Mogul Experiment is supposed to run with 5' 6" wheels and the Crab I believe is the same. In fact based on my research so far I believe the Crab was built instead of the Mogul Experiment so likely best bet. Don't quote me on that though. I can only speculate currently. As well as the wheels you have the space in the body to consider too. I'll get to work on re-scales soon though. Edited October 30, 2017 by Knuckles 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Alright. The Crab chassis it is, then. And thanks. By the way, would it be possible to use the Bachmann Crab Chassis on the 00 L&YR Class 28 Mogul Experiment but with removal of valve gear and cylinders? It did get me thinking. Edited October 30, 2017 by LNWR18901910 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 That is what I was thinking yes. Just use the coupling rods. I do not know how well it would fit and how much fettling may be needed though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 That is what I was thinking yes. Just use the coupling rods. I do not know how well it would fit and how much fettling may be needed though. Good luck with that. If I am able to purchase a body shell of the Class 28 Mogul Experiment, then I would need to find the Bachmann Crab Chassis and maybe try and remove valve gear and cylinders. Getting it to fit is the next step. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Good luck with that. If I am able to purchase a body shell of the Class 28 Mogul Experiment, then I would need to find the Bachmann Crab Chassis and maybe try and remove valve gear and cylinders. Getting it to fit is the next step. Aye, I had to thicken the insides of the splashers and a few bits up due to its smaller size and the printing tolerances so maybe slightly smaller wheels would be better. I cannot currently tell, however... https://www.shapeways.com/product/NAHNCH5S2/n-1-148-l-yr-class-28-mogul-experiment?optionId=63943834 ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Aye, I had to thicken the insides of the splashers and a few bits up due to its smaller size and the printing tolerances so maybe slightly smaller wheels would be better. I cannot currently tell, however... https://www.shapeways.com/product/NAHNCH5S2/n-1-148-l-yr-class-28-mogul-experiment?optionId=63943834 ! Wow! It looks fantastic! You did a great job and thanks again! I love it! I wish I could purchase it if I had a shapeways account, though. Maybe a Fowler 4F with a pony truck at the front would suffice? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Fowler 4F would likely be suitable. I know some used a 4F chassis for the 4mm version. You don't need a Shapeways account to make a purchase there, it just makes it easier to communicate with me and other designers on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Fowler 4F would likely be suitable. I know some used a 4F chassis for the 4mm version. You don't need a Shapeways account to make a purchase there, it just makes it easier to communicate with me and other designers on there. I see. Maybe I could try it perhaps. I want to purchase the Mogul Experiment body, but I wonder how else? To complete it, I'll also need either an N Scale 4F chassis which is either the old one or the new one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Yeah you keep saying. Only one way to find out, I've made the body available now so that's 50% the challenge gone. So for everyone, the N gauge body is here https://www.shapeways.com/product/NAHNCH5S2/n-1-148-l-yr-class-28-mogul-experiment?optionId=63943833 The 7mm Re-scale and tweaked body is here https://www.shapeways.com/product/6N25TWJSS/7mm-l-yr-class-28-mogul-experiment The 7mm 0 Gauge Chassis here https://www.shapeways.com/product/FRXQJ9ENT/7mm-l-yr-class-28-mogul-experiment-0-chassis?optionId=63943977 It so far is looking like the coupling rods cannot be offered due to bounding box issues so apologies for that. Currently beyond my control though. Re-scaling and optimizing thicknesses for each is an on going process so keep your eyes peeled and please make your interests known as that likely will change my priority for the re-scales as currently I'm neutral to which order I do them in. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Yeah you keep saying. Only one way to find out, I've made the body available now so that's 50% the challenge gone. So for everyone, the N gauge body is here https://www.shapeways.com/product/NAHNCH5S2/n-1-148-l-yr-class-28-mogul-experiment?optionId=63943833 The 7mm Re-scale and tweaked body is here https://www.shapeways.com/product/6N25TWJSS/7mm-l-yr-class-28-mogul-experiment The 7mm 0 Gauge Chassis here https://www.shapeways.com/product/FRXQJ9ENT/7mm-l-yr-class-28-mogul-experiment-0-chassis?optionId=63943977 It so far is looking like the coupling rods cannot be offered due to bounding box issues so apologies for that. Currently beyond my control though. Re-scaling and optimizing thicknesses for each is an on going process so keep your eyes peeled and please make your interests known as that likely will change my priority for the re-scales as currently I'm neutral to which order I do them in. They look fantastic! You did a great job on those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold John B Posted October 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2017 It's easy to set up a Shapeways account. Literally a 2 minute job. User name and password is all you need! To anyone considering one of SCC's products, just jump right in. Gavin has done an excellent job designing (and building - his instructional videos are fully descriptive and refreshingly honest), and the 3D print rendition of the Furness J1 (which I have had delivered) is terrific in FUD. No connection other than a satisfied punter and a fan of esoteric pre-grouping subjects... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Many thanks, John. Much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 It's easy to set up a Shapeways account. Literally a 2 minute job. User name and password is all you need! To anyone considering one of SCC's products, just jump right in. Gavin has done an excellent job designing (and building - his instructional videos are fully descriptive and refreshingly honest), and the 3D print rendition of the Furness J1 (which I have had delivered) is terrific in FUD. No connection other than a satisfied punter and a fan of esoteric pre-grouping subjects... I'll give it a matter of thought. For now, I can hope for the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just asking to see how everything has been going and how everyone has been getting on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Oh dear...the body is no longer available. Maybe it needs retweaking, I think. Still, I'll always have the 00 version, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Yeah I'm just updating it, will be fine in a day or two. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Yeah I'm just updating it, will be fine in a day or two. I see. Good luck with it and good luck finding the 4F chassis, too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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