RMweb Premium macgeordie Posted January 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2016 The coach is the L&Y one, it is a Stevensons coaches kit I built about 9 or 10 years ago. Barrie Stevenson retired so I'm not sure if the coach is still available. I did a kit for the LMS one myself about 5 years ago to go with the MTU brake coaches that were used with the LMS coach but I sold the rights to both kits to Brian Hanson of Shawplan after I had made my own but I don't think Brian ever did anything with the kits afterwards. Here are a links to the threads http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/665/entry-5202-lmsbr-dynamometer-car-3/ http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29552 Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 .....I sold the rights to both kits to Brian Hanson of Shawplan after I had made my own but I don't think Brian ever did anything with the kits afterwards. Nope, nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Virtually nothing RTR will, because the ProtoDeltic had a bogie wheelbase of 7'2" X 7'2". The closest is the Class 47 bogie which is 7'3" X 7'3". Another option is a Hornby 31. For this purpose you could buy a rotted example and then make a chassis with the correct distance between the bogies, which is my plan as yet unfulfilled. The wheel centres are a very close match for the axle covers on the Dapol bogie. John. Edited January 14, 2016 by John Tomlinson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Another option is a Hornby 31. For this purpose you could buy a rotted example and then make a chassis with the correct distance between the bogies, which is my plan as yet unfulfilled. The wheel centres are a very close match for the axle covers on the Dapol bogie. Full table of diesel bogie wheelbases here ....and I think we can forget asking Bachmann Spares Department whether they ever have ProtoDeltic bogie mechanisms available. Very unhelpful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Horsetan, Many thanks for posting the table of data. I've always wondered if the Bachmann Proto Deltic did actually have a dimensionally correct chassis - I haven't bought one to check - and perhaps someone could advise us if this is the case? John. Edited January 14, 2016 by John Tomlinson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 ....always wondered if the Bachmann Proto Deltic did actually have a dimensionally correct chassis ... It does. The only parts of it I've ever managed to acquire as spares are the plastic underframe / undertray, and the cosmetic bogie frames. No other spares seem to have ever been available, despite repeated enquiries. I have the Penbits sprung bogie frames which are designed to match. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Malifex Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Hi everybody - first post on here! I, too, am working on a Dapol DP1 kit, and I've been looking at the Shawplan EEDP55-00E roof grilles and walkways, but I see there are no fans included Does anybody know if DP1 fans are available from anywhere? Or could fans from another class of loco be substituted? I have to confess I don't know what the original DP1 fans looked like... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 .... working on a Dapol DP1 kit, and I've been looking at the Shawplan EEDP55-00E roof grilles and walkways, but I see there are no fans included Does anybody know if DP1 fans are available from anywhere? Or could fans from another class of loco be substituted? I have to confess I don't know what the original DP1 fans looked like... There are only one or two Shawplan/EE etches that can be used on the ProtoDeltic: - roof fans / fan mesh for the original / early production "55"; do NOT use the later version. - bodyside window frames. That's about it for DP1. From time to time, I do ask Brian Hanson whether he might have time to draft a few more detail etches for the ProtoDeltic, but frankly the man's so busy with the more common and popular diesel classes I think we can safely say that it's not going to happen. A1 Models used to produce an etch pack specifically to help detail the Dapol/ex-Kitmaster plastic kit, but it does have mistakes in it (mainly the curved cantrail grilles which have too many slats in them) and appears to be unavailable new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malifex Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Thanks for that, Horsetan. The current Shawplan website lists the following: EEDP55-00(E) Class 55 Roof fan grilles and walkways (as built) Note: fans not included so again I'm stuck without fans. I'll keep searching... Edited February 25, 2016 by Malifex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just realised A1 Models do have a website, but given that the 4mm list is empty, and they only seem to be active in producing NG stuff, I'd say the 4mm scale diesel range is defunct for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malifex Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Most of their website seems to be empty - looks like a template site that hasn't been populated with any details yet. I've emailed them... Aren't they up in my old stomping ground, Worksop area? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) ....Note: fans not included so again I'm stuck without fans.... I think the Bachmann version has fan blades in it. Edited February 26, 2016 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Most of their website seems to be empty - looks like a template site that hasn't been populated with any details yet. I've emailed them... Aren't they up in my old stomping ground, Worksop area? Yes they are. John Flower the proprietor is certainly alive and well and I saw him recently, I think at Doncaster show. John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium macgeordie Posted May 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) The coach is Dynamometer car 1 which is the ex L&Y vehicle, but is incorrect for the tests on the S&C. Once I realised that, I produced skit for dynamometer car 3 which is the correct one along with a kit for the Mobile Test Unit brake coaches so I could recreate the correct train. I now run this train on the layout at exhibitions. I sold the rights to the kits to Shawplan but I don't think Brian ever did anything more with them. Ian Edited May 30, 2016 by macgeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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