18B Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) Just reading the abc Railway Depots book and in there is a page on "Didcot Milton Park" depot, - opened by Trainload Freight SoutEast in 1994 - just wondered whats the current state of that depot? Edited August 1, 2019 by 18B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nightstar.train Posted April 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2016 According to Wikipedia the Milton Park is sidings are disused. Also looking on Google Maps you can see they're very over grown and some have been cut off. So it's looks like it's all out of use now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 If this is the collection of warehouses on the Up side west of Didcot, then I've not seen any rail traffic there for a very long time. I'm a bit confused by the date quoted for its opening, as I thought it dated to 'Speedlink' days, so about a decade earlier. By the beginning of this Millenium, I believe the only rail traffic using it had been vehicles travelling by road to and from the GWS at Didcot, as that site hasn't any direct road access. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2016 If this is the collection of warehouses on the Up side west of Didcot, then I've not seen any rail traffic there for a very long time. I'm a bit confused by the date quoted for its opening, as I thought it dated to 'Speedlink' days, so about a decade earlier. By the beginning of this Millenium, I believe the only rail traffic using it had been vehicles travelling by road to and from the GWS at Didcot, as that site hasn't any direct road access. I suspect the entry is wrong. The Milton Park connection is much earlier than 1994 and apart from one or two occasional bits of traffic the only regular (but occasional) user in the early days was the GWS but that ceased when access was much improved by the new diesel servicing shed sidings. What I suspect the entry actually refers to is the loco servicing shed which was opened c.1994 by Trainload Coal in connection with the scheme to bring in coal from Avonmouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted April 21, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2016 Didcot Depot, built on what was the engineers tip (another thread somewhere on this forum) See this pic over in the prototype discussion forum from the Johnnys Photos- where are they thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-4474-0-67295200-1459882500.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) I suspect that date refers to when the current rail served building was built. The original warehouse was set farther back from the main lines and was a lower building with sidings/loading platforms on both sides of it. It was a bonded warehouse and I don't know the full story but I was led to believe that a lot of the proposed traffic was killed off by dockers union opposition Edited April 21, 2016 by 101 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think there was some traffic in the early EWS years. Chipboard rings a bell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Chipboard rings a bell That would make a rather muffled sound. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 Hi, its not the sidings, but the actual 1 road depot built Trainload Freight Southeast that opened in 1994 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2016 Hi, its not the sidings, but the actual 1 road depot built Trainload Freight Southeast that opened in 1994 The 3rd (2000) edition of Quail shows it as operated by Nedlloyd Districenters and it was on a loop. The 4th (2006) edition shows it as still being Nedlloyd Districenters but on a dead end siding and it is the same in the 5th (2010) edition. However on Google Maps it is now shown as occupied by Panalpina freight forwarders although the address information against that company is rather ambiguous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted April 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2016 The Panalpina building has been divided into a few units around three years ago. It was empty for a year or so - DHL solutions (formally Danzas) had it before that for a pick/pack operation. Panalpina seemingly hold the back of the building near the railines, DHL have the front left corner as a courier depot, and a couple of smaller concerns utilise the office space (IT and fire alarm support companies), with a couple of spaces left on the address panel. The only train I can recall having seen on the siding in the last decade was a steam engine and gronk lashup from the railway centre which I guess was lowloader bound - this was a number of years ago. Network rail do seem to have kept up the maintenance and inspections on their part, based on activity seen over the years as driving to/from Didcot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted April 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2016 The 1 road depot that 18b is actually enquiring about is this building in the triangle between the GWML, Didcot West Curve and the Chester Lines as seen here: GWML at bottom of pic. Thames Valley Signalling Centre just above. Didcot Railway Centre on the right. Didcot PS off to the left of pic. To answer the initial query, the depot is still in use by DB Schenker/Cargo for fuel points and minor exams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2016 The 1 road depot that 18b is actually enquiring about is this building in the triangle between the GWML, Didcot West Curve and the Chester Lines as seen here: image.jpeg GWML at bottom of pic. Thames Valley Signalling Centre just above. Didcot Railway Centre on the right. Didcot PS off to the left of pic. To answer the initial query, the depot is still in use by DB Schenker/Cargo for fuel points and minor exams. As I thought (Post No.4) however there is some confusion in attributing it to Trainload Freight South East as it was actually built by Trainload Coal - specifically for the Avonmouth - Didcot coal traffic. It might actually have opened following the break-up of Trainload Freight but not by very long if at all. Incidentally I never heard it referred to as 'Milton Park Depot' which has probably added to any confusion in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I think 18B needs to clarify exactly what he was asking about, as the depot Banger Blue is talking about is definately not "Didcot Milton Park" as asked in the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted April 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2016 I think 18B needs to clarify exactly what he was asking about, as the depot Banger Blue is talking about is definately not "Didcot Milton Park" as asked in the OP.If the abc Railway Depot book is this one: Then it's about Locomotive Depots & Stabling Points, so it will be the one I posted above, but as you say that's not Milton Park, Milton Park is the commercial area further to the west which still has a rail connection. The last time I remember the long siding at Milton Park being used was about 2011/12 ( I was working at Didcot Parkway at the time) and a FLHH service used to back in and recess there in the early hours of the morning. For the life of me I can't remember the actual working. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 The book as shown above has a pic of the depot it calls "Milton Park" and situated inside the triangle of lines near Didcot Parkway station, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 The book as shown above has a pic of the depot it calls "Milton Park" and situated inside the triangle of lines near Didcot Parkway station, Well, I don't believe it was ever called that so it's rather inaccurate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 Well, I don't believe it was ever called that so it's rather inaccurate - what was it called? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 the current Google Earth map shows the building and track still there, but nothing on hsed or around it........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2016 Well, I don't believe it was ever called that so it's rather inaccurate - what was it called? 'Didcot Servicing Point' I believe or possibly servicing Shed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 'Didcot Servicing Point' I believe or possibly servicing Shed. Is that supposition or evidence based? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted May 8, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) 'Didcot Servicing Point' I believe or possibly servicing Shed. 'Didcot Servicing Point' I believe or possibly servicing Shed. Is that supposition or evidence based? The only thing I've heard it referred to (by local DB staff) is "the fuel point". Do a Flickr search for "Didcot Fuel Point"! Edited May 8, 2016 by Banger Blue 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 In realtime trains It's called ' didcot fuelling point ', I'm not sure if this is the actual trust / tops or whatever they call it, name but seems most likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted May 9, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2016 From the website www.railwaycodes.org.uk (http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/CRS/CRSd.shtm), the various location codes for Didcot Fuelling Point: Location: CRS NLC TIPLOC STANME STANOX Didcot Fuelling Point: DIF 303011 DIDCTFP DIDCOT FP 74310 Computer reservation system (CRS) codes [replaced by national reservation system (NRS) codes from late 2004, but the codes are the same] National location codes (NLC) Timing point locations (TIPLOC) Station number names (STANME) Station numbers (STANOX) There are a number of codes for the rail served commercial park (Milton) which most people were referring to: Didcot Distribution Centre 303014 DIDCOT DC 74319 Didcot Distribution Centre Nedlloyd 303018 DIDCTDC DIDCOT DC 74319 Didcot Milton Siding Freightliner 303047 DIDCMSF 74326 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 In my railway involvement as a TOPS clerk when we covered the Didcot area (1996-99), and later as a roster clerk responsible for Didcot depot (1999-2006) I never heard the name 'Didcot Milton Park' used in reference to the fuelling point . cheers 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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