Earl Bathurst Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Afternoon Can anyone tell me if J94 in steam days under British Railways were allowed on the national network or not? Photos would be much appreciated Thanks Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Afternoon Can anyone tell me if J94 in steam days under British Railways were allowed on the national network or not? Photos would be much appreciated Thanks Scott The ex-LNER, BR-owned, J94s would have been. Those in industrial service would have been treated on a case-by-case basis. Here's a photo of a BR one in the North-East, which had a large allocation:- https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/8444878014/in/photolist-dBBeY7-iK28SH-jcMAYb-dLP7eH-dkgM8S-q2wQJi-bn8sxa-fHLmFi-ouqo3w-qswops-pfs73y-dSfd25-iezSEH-fhzFfu-Jx5ZJi-Haaksm-ofk8Pr-owB5PY-bgEqmX-qEz2Eg-pb3zp4-bipiHR-oCU9oH-iA2hHb-oEEauV-pFH1Cz-iGYu7C-aAgN38-dBnhfK-dbz7Pj-oyAuxQ-ie6uTk-di2nnG-q4rjvq-gXMnjZ-qqTg7N-owMma5-owMqDA-qdVniQ-HHtZpU-joE9Hq-fimM6v-a9F8h7-dibvoF-pb3zpe-dhQZMd-qU1QRz-DWfND3-dXEhVV-e5zLtJ and another at Derby:- https://www.flickr.com/photos/the-evanses/4993159988/in/photolist-doYxs4-pfu9Lt-ewzwmX-8BefvW-drnqS9-diCgtj-nxkApx-nvAqhb-9gJuFo-dCMJxK-8BftWu-qjfuB2-dUvypE-bPHXw4-8NzJkm-7724vo-oz77ms-gR9rsj-ofkcKT-79vYXi-q57PwF-pfsiYC-dLiDkE-81Z9FJ-gC7FhA-9DiDSn-butbuV-8Befvj-4ew3D6-cB7qRm-pmFWTx-9X31wP-qno5v5-gZE7E8-dTwZEC-oXYPcr-pTifhx-dmiCL9-e8N1J6-gR9nZX-9Qf9aE-aAgLjK-dmDw8P-gpj5c8-A2WS1W-acLFjK-g41yvB-nSmXhQ-cB7yKf-6txSTE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Afternoon Can anyone tell me if J94 in steam days under British Railways were allowed on the national network or not? Photos would be much appreciated Thanks Scott J94 was the classification devised by the former LNER to identify its' types of locomotive, where e.g. J= 0-6-0; A= 4-6-2 etc. . So, it follows, that a former LNER (or BR ) J94 would be allowed on the national network. . However, the J94 was was originally an industrial design by the Hunslet Engine Co. ( their 18" 0-6-0ST ). . Others were also built to the same design by other builders e.g. Robert Stephenson & Hawthorn, Vulcan Foundry, Andrew Barclay. . Eventually some 484 were built, and the vast majority went to industrial users, mainly the National Coal Board. . The industrial locos would only be allowed on the national network if 'registered' bu which they would need to be regularly examined by BR engineers, and would then carry a plate showing they were 'regeitered' by the Railway Executive. . Even then, they would generally only be allowed to work on certain designated yards, sidings or lines, and wouldn't be allowed to roam the national network willy nilly. . Hope this helps. . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmay2002 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 However, the J94 was was originally an industrial design by the Hunslet Engine Co. ( their 18" 0-6-0ST ). . Strictly speaking it was a design for the army to operate on the liberated mainline railways of Western Europe loosely based on earlier Hunslet industrial shunters. Only 93 of the 484 built were originally for civilian orders although most of the govt ones were sold out of service both in the UK and abroad (6 ended up in Tunisia). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Strictly speaking it was a design for the army to operate on the liberated mainline railways of Western Europe loosely based on earlier Hunslet industrial shunters. Only 93 of the 484 built were originally for civilian orders although most of the govt ones were sold out of service both in the UK and abroad (6 ended up in Tunisia). Strictly speaking, the OP only wanted to know whether a could run a J94 on the national network, post 1948. . I don't think he wanted to know the origins of the design. . I only included a "potted" history, becasue he may, just may, have confused the industrial version, or even militray versions, with the ex-LNER locos - as some modellers and enthusiasts are wont to do. . I doubt (but don't really know for sure) he was looking to run a Tunisian or Dutch colliery example on a BR layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Bathurst Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Hi Everyone Thank you for your replies. I would be looking to run the the j94 in British railways livery on a small freight. Wasn't to sure if they could be used on the mainline as per to first question. Thanks again for the help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted November 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2016 As Mr. Rolley has said, the 'J94' was an LNER classification for the 18" Hunslet/MoS 'Austerity' locomotive. Only those locomotives owned by the LNER (and BR) gained the J94 tag. All the others are more correctly known as either an Austerity, or, 18" Hunslet. Sorry to be pedantic about this, but that's how it is. BR allowed non-BR locomotives onto it's tracks, on a purely case by case basis. We have two such locomotives at Blaenavon. The earlier one is 'Nora', which currently resides at Big Pit Museum, and the newer one is 'Mechanical Navvies Ltd, which proudly adorns the plates "Registered with the British Transport Commission". Hope this helps, Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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