RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2021 14 hours ago, airnimal said: I am taking my time this time and hopefully not making any mistakes. My wife says I rush things and that is the reason I scrap so much of my work. Festina lente... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Regularity said: Festina lente... This is a lesson I was taught by my father at the age of about 7 when trying to paint cereal packets to look like Tudor houses, as described in the Meccanno Magazine of the day (mid '50s). It has stuck with me ever since, though I confess not always been adhered to, with the inevitable consequences! Jim 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted January 22, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2021 Patience is something I have when things go wrong otherwise I wouldn't be able to start again after spending 40 hours only to scrap the first or second attempt. Taking in all the details in when looking at something like a drawing or photograph is where I fall down. Having so many things going around my head at the same time is a problem to. Getting into trouble with the house authority can also be distracting like when I got a Black line from a permanent marker down the Cream curtains. I have only myself to blame. The sides have been laid out and hopefully I have it right this time. This is unusual because I do not normally put the framing on until I build the body. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted January 23, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2021 I have assembled the body with the parts I have so far because I still have the verandah end to make. I have taken into account my interpretation of the drawing on the first build and looking more thoroughly at both the drawings and the photographs for my second build. On the first model I have 5 .25 planks and on the second build I have 6. Unfortunately for me I have managed to get a slight bow in the framing on one side by a few thou. Will anyone notice or care, but I am mad with myself after trying hard to not make mistakes. My wife thinks I am daft for caring over something so small and has been giving me lots of suggestions on future builds. I know she trying to be helpful and I am grateful for her interest but ........ 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted January 23, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2021 I had a good day today with the second end made and fixed in place. Just the small doors to do and fit. I feel more confident that this one will succeed and I have corrected the faults on the first one, There is still a long way to go but the basic shell looks right to me. 15 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted January 23, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2021 Will the added slow down and concentration being improved I have put the angles on the frames for the water to run off and not rot the timbers. 13 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted January 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2021 Mike, You wrote, "Unfortunately for me I have managed to get a slight bow in the framing on one side by a few thou. Will anyone notice or care, but I am mad with myself after trying hard to not make mistakes." Are you sure that the real ones didn't develop the odd bow, warp or twist in service? Dave 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted January 24, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 Thanks Dave, I'm sure I will have forgotten about this small fault when its finished. I was woken up at 1 ' o'clock this morning an unable to get back to sleep I got up and had a small beer and looked at doing a bit to the brake van. I have put the end stanchion on and the wooden packing pieces behind the buffers. I also found a plastic roof of the right profile in my bits box. I had to cut it down to length but it's a bonus finding one that fits nearly perfect. I find roofs one of the hardest parts to get right. 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted January 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2021 Mike, how exactly do you do the chamfering on the timbers so neatly? Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 43 minutes ago, Dave Hunt said: Mike, how exactly do you do the chamfering on the timbers so neatly? Dave It is how Mike obtains such crisp, sharp, parallel and perpendicular edges that fascinates me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Simply wonderful to see come together, Mike. Really, it's a treat. Thanks for sharing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted January 24, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) I think the reason people perceive my work as " crisp, sharp, parallel and perpendicular edges " is down to the material and less to my workmanship. Evergreen plastic is so brilliant with its square edges almost guaranteed that when building up to a known size like the top of the headstock I can pick up a piece of 60 thou strip and it fits in place perfectly. Evergreen don't do any triangle sizes so I had to modify a strip of quarter round and file the the curved part off. This was achieved by placing it in an upturned brass 2mm x 2mm angle and drawing a scalpel blade along the protruding top edge to leave a triangle strip which when gone over which microfine or ultrafine polishing clothes gives a smooth finish. This then fits perfectly the top edge of the headstock leaving the results you see here. Before Evergreen came out I was spending so much time trying to achieve straight edges on plastic sheets by filing and sanding and the results were never as good. Edited January 24, 2021 by airnimal 12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) For a long while I was using a stock of Slaters microstrip I bought as a teenager forty years ago (still am for 0.010" x 0.020", 0.030", and 0.040") then I discovered Evergreen and sound like a washing powder commercial! Edited January 24, 2021 by Compound2632 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted January 25, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2021 A couple of new doors have been made along with another floor because the doors are thinner leaving a gap behind them. All the frames have there chamfer applied and the start of new ironwork. The corner ironwork at the bottom of the body is wider than are the others. There is still a heck of a way to go but I am glad I started again. 10 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, airnimal said: There is still a heck of a way to go but I am glad I started again. And so am I - and maybe others too - for you have shown us all the benefits of patience, observation and careful working. If you fancy a slightly more challenging subject in the same vein - how about a GWR brakevan from the late 1800s? I am referring to the outside frame, single verandah, version. regards, Graham 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted January 26, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 Graham, I don't need anything challenging in my life at present, there is more than enough going on in the world as it is. As for patience, having a wife and 3 daughters in the household with only one bathroom patience comes as second nature. Wasn't there a resin kit for the early GWR brake van from Meteor models ? As for making stuff for other people, I have built lots of models over the years for other people but when I retired I said I would only build for myself. Carrying on with the ironwork, most has been applied but the top brackets at the non verandah end have left off until I work out how to make the lamp irons. I think I know how to make them but I don't have the right brass T section in stock. A bit more forward thinking would have foreseen this discrepancy because I have sent a big order to Eilleen's for material that could have included the necessary items. I am pleased with the fit of the plastic roof which just clips in . I think I also need a new brush for my liquid glue. My old one must be over 30 years old and I always thought that the Slaters mex brush was expensive, but at £3.85 at the present price I think it has been good value. If I buy a new one and it last as long I will be 99 ! 16 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 This is exceptionally neat, and I admire your patience and attention to detail. I look forward to seeing the finished model. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post airnimal Posted January 27, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) I have spent several hours applying nuts to most of the ironwork. There are large washers with coach bolts on the lower body side which I am going to do next before I get on on to the underframe and running gear. Edited January 27, 2021 by airnimal 9 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 How do you create a slot for the coupling hook which looks so like a regular rectangle? By the way, my Slater's MEK brush looks just like yours, maybe a few less hairs. I think that I bought the brush in the early 1990s, so probably from the same batch! Peter has a "new" MEK brush, bought just a couple of years ago, and I find that his brush is so much more usable (than mine) when laminating "large" areas of plsatikard. regards, Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted January 28, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2021 Graham, I drill a couple of holes in the headstock and join them together to form a slot with a scalpel. A quick tickle with a needle file and you have the required slot. The same method is used for the plate but with a bit more care. The corners are then cut on a little jig made from scrap etch. I have put the washers on the lower side frame punched out of 10 thou Black plastic. Left overnight to harden and then rubbed down to about 5 thou before drilling to except. 6mm rivets or domed coach bolts. With the plastic being this thin there is a danger of them splitting as happened on the fourth one along which will be replaced. 9 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, airnimal said: Graham, I drill a couple of holes in the headstock and join them together to form a slot with a scalpel. A quick tickle with a needle file and you have the required slot. The same method is used for the plate but with a bit more care. The corners are then cut on a little jig made from scrap etch. I've yet to see a sufficiently small rectangular needle file to do that in 4 mm scale but that's probably for lack of looking. I do like the plate corner jig. On the same theme, how did you get the ends of the washer plates so neatly round? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted January 28, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2021 Compound2632, the ends of the washers plates have the corners cut off and rounded with a bit of micro fine cloth. Nothing high tech I'm afraid. This is the needle file I use to open out the hole in the headstocks. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, airnimal said: A quick tickle with a needle file and you have the required slot. The same method is used for the plate but with a bit more care. The corners are then cut on a little jig made from scrap etch. That jig, so brilliant in design! Thank you for showing us how you get the clipped corners. regards, Graham 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium airnimal Posted January 28, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2021 Graham, this jig like a lot in life, the simple things are sometimes the best. We have wheels on so I can get on and figure out how to do the brake gear. There is still a fair bit to do on the body regarding details. I have used some hexagonal bolts from Masterclub on the solebars which I hope is right because the photograph of No 459 isn't very clear. I know the better photograph of No 60 uses square bolts but I can always replace these bolts if more information comes to light. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Compound2632 said: I've yet to see a sufficiently small rectangular needle file to do that in 4 mm scale but that's probably for lack of looking. What you are searching for, sir, is a watchmaker’s “escapement file”. And a small loan to pay for a good one! Alternative, you can grind down an old needle file, leaving one or maybe two cutting faces. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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