Mystery break van

[wessy]

I have been dabbling in 7mm since retiring a couple of years ago, following what I suspect is the usual path of being seduced by a wagon kit or two, and then finding that the previously interesting 4mm stuff is just too small and unsatisfying. As far as possible, I have restricted by purchases and plans to things relevant to S Wales before WW1. However, this brake (or should that be 'break') van was bought cheaply at a show earlier this year. I fancy building it as one for a docks company, rather like the Cardiff Railway but very very much smaller.

 

The reason for exposing this to the combined knowledge and expertise of the RMweb is to ask if anyone knows what the prototype for the kit is and who used to make it? I did wonder if it was a North British incline break van, but the ones I have seen are not quite like it. Although the curved brass for the roof is sufficient for the whole length of the vehicle, the design of the verandas suggests that it only covered the cabin. Any thoughts would be most welcome. 

 

[IWCR]

The  van  looks to  be  typical  of  the  1860's.

As  you  state  the  roof  would  only  cover  the  van  part.

Probably  gone  from  mainline  service  before  1900  but  could  well  be  suitable  for  an  internal  user  on  an  industrial  or  docks  line.

 

Pete

[hartleymartin]

It would be interesting to establish an exact prototype for this break van. I do think that it is an attractive prototype.

[EKR]

Just checked my model.

It's from Majestic Models and their description is MW41 Light Railway incline goods van which was based on the NBR Kipps incline brake van

 

Apparently the dog kennel is correct but the veranda has been altered slightly from the original.

Hth.

[wessy]

Just checked my model.

It's from Majestic Models and their description is MW41 Light Railway incline goods van which was based on the NBR Kipps incline brake van

 

Apparently the dog kennel is correct but the veranda has been altered slightly from the original.

Hth.

 

Thanks for the lead. Following on from your information, I have found some photos of early NBR break vans on the P4 Burntisland model so I can see how the originals looked. Renovating the kit is next on my work list, so I will post a photo when it is completed.

[MarcD]

I would say its one on the NBR's incline brakes. at least it matches the drawings it have got.

 

Marc 

[wessy]

I would say its one on the NBR's incline brakes. at least it matches the drawings it have got.

 

Marc 

 

Thanks, Marc. My renovation will include brake standards on each of the open platforms, rather than one in the cabin (which is really tiny at about 4'6'' by 7') as I will use it as a brake van used by a small docks company as a general purpose brake van rather that the specialised North British one.

 

Tim