Interface between industrial and mainline

[clarkea1]

Another example.  At Margam TC, Tata shunters are authorised into certain roads of the yard (due to their loading gauge) and regularly bring full wagons and retrieve empties from the yard and take them into the steelworks complex.  By the same token, DB Cargo loco's cross into works territory with coal trains from Cwmbargoed to the Grange Siding.

 

Fascinating to spend an hour or two down there watching the comings on goings of some of the UK's oldest (and newest) industrial locos still in industrial use (as opposed to preservation).

 

Alastair

[bluesparkdave]

I seem to recall that on the NCB Waterside system in Ayrshire, the pugs there had plates on the cabside authorising them to run on the BR tracks within the exchange loops and sidings. There was no danger of the NCB locos entering the BR main line to Ayr as this was protected by a set of locked points. Also the BR locos only used the BR loops and sidings, never entering the NCB part of the system. Hope this helps

[br2975]

This is an entry in the Newport District Sectional Appendix circa 1965.

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It lays down the regulations permitting the private diesel shunter owned by the Northern Aluminium Co. to enter and shunt certain BR sidings at Rogerstone, in the Western Valley..

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Brian R

Edited January 19, 2018 by br2975

[br2975]

Another, more involved entry in the Newport District Sectional Appendix circa 1965.

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This entry relates to the use of Messrs John Cashmores Ltd. steam crane operating over certain, specified lines in Newport Docks.

 

Cashmores were famous for the number of locomotives, steam, diesel and electric and also ships, they cut up at their Blaina Wharf alongside the River Usk, beneath the present day George Street bridge.

 

Note how involved and explicit the entry is.

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Brian R 

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NOTE

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For those seeking a prototype for everything, ex-GWR 1361 0-6-0ST No.1365 withdrawn from Swindon shed on 20/11/1962 was sold to Cashmores for scrap ( where many published records say it was scrapped there in September 1963 ) but was in fact used as a yard shunter by Messrs Cashmores until about May 1965.

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So, what is to say that in the absence of Cashmores steam crane, 1365 never worked certain lines around Newport Town Dock eighteen months or more after it was withdrawn by BR ?

 

[Covkid]

Gong back to the 1980s Rowntree Mackintosh had a distribution warehouse near Penkridge in Staffordshire. The confectionary was delivered in air braked vans on a BR trip with a diesel loco after arriving overnight on a Speedlink service. The Rowntree sidings were connected to the NCB colliery track and BR locos were not authorised onto the NCB track beyond a stop board. Thus Rowntree had an agreement where the colliery diesel would shunt the traffic from the exchange with BR into Rowntrees warehouse, then back to the BR sidings when empty.

 

 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/61850-boscomoor-sidings-and-the-littleton-colliery-branch-staffordshire/

 

Whilst this doesn't match up with your chosen time period it explains how you could establish a fictional operation which involved BR and "third party" locos for your traffic, also breaking up the "monotony" of solely coal trains !!!      

[fodenway]

This image was sent to me by a friend, and depicts Cl.37 (D)6992 at Mardy Colliery, Maerdy.

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The building on the right is the NCB weighbridge, the locos are a Hunslet 18" 0-6-0ST (right) and the Peckett built  'Mardy Monster' (left).

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The exchange sidings are behind the Cl.37, whilst the pithead is behind the photographer -  which gives the impression of this being trackage to which both BR and NCB locos have access, and I suspect may be Coal Board owned.

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The photographer is unknown

 

Brian R

Nice to see a shot of the Mardy Monster in action. It is now resident at the Elsecar Heritage Railway in South Yorkshire, undergoing a very long drawn out restoration. There is an appeal for funds to help completion of this unique loco.

[Tom Burnham]

Things could get complicated when there were two or more companies sharing one set of exchange sidings - see for example these  2 extracts from the BR(S) South Eastern Division sectional appendix dated 1960: