Prometheus Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I'd really appreciate some wisdom here! Am I correct in thinking that an all-over dark brown livery for suburbans was not uncommon during this period? Presumably with a 'Shirtbutton'? Or is it just further evidence of bewilderment? Many thanks, as ever... Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMS Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2017 Are you talking about GWR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Are you talking about GWR? I would think the term "shirtbutton", and this being in the "GWR Rolling Stock:model and prototype" section is a big clue... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2017 Not suburban, but non corridor B Set for the Kingsbridge branch during the war years was in all over brown with single orange line and G W R over crest logo. For the same period the other B Set on the branch was in chocolate and cream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2017 Michael Harris (GW Coaches : 1890 - 1954) says that apart from passenger luggage vans, which were brown from about 1935, the brown and cream remained in use, until the cream paint supplies ran out in the war. 'From 1942 a standard wartime livery, described as a red brown, was introduced' with a single bronze waist line.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 Michael Harris (GW Coaches : 1890 - 1954) says that apart from passenger luggage vans, which were brown from about 1935, the brown and cream remained in use, until the cream paint supplies ran out in the war. 'From 1942 a standard wartime livery, described as a red brown, was introduced' with a single bronze waist line.. That'll do ! Thanks all for the replies. Bewilderment is clearly on hold for the time being... Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The number of coaches repainted in 1942-5 brown was comparatively small. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) The number of coaches repainted in 1942-5 brown was comparatively small. A valid point. I should think that the minimum of non-essential painting was done and things would have got shabbier and shabbier. So weathering skills needed! Here's a photo from 1946 - I think that the second coach could have been brown & cream (Edit - the more I look at it the more I think that the first coach could be an even dirtier brown and cream. There definitely seem to be two shades there. I initially put that down to the light falling differently on the vertical upper half and the curved lower part. Now I am not so sure.) Ex Taff Vale 409 Cardiff 21.9.1946 Edited October 28, 2017 by phil_sutters 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Am excellent illustration, Phil, and very typical of the WWII and post-WWII era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 The number of coaches repainted in 1942-5 brown was comparatively small. That's OK - I only planned to do two! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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