Ressaldar Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) Lets hope that Dapol remember the 'central locking plates' over the footsteps one I did a couple of years back, a Bachmann/San Cheng O Gauge model.- reading the Spec on the DCC Supplies website, they are not mentioned. regards Mike edited to amend description to 'central locking plates' Edited September 22, 2018 by Ressaldar 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted June 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2018 The Dapol model doesn’t appear to include anti ride steps, saw the model at GCR yesterday. I can’t see any prototype images of them on the 121 or 122’s on a quick web search either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Hi PMP, search 121034 on Flickr and this is one of the images https://www.flickr.com/photos/73574431@N06/36843657956/in/photolist-Y8KnU1-X9yEMS-TEg3hd-qgTqDX-TZApum-26ExKhH-qrwmgW-W7NS7i-TEpFNt-gMtqve-S5fSBH-UZdKVM-sbq1QG-XQhNm7-UVoXw9-9Tu8AP-iohQv2-Y4HNvU-URoQMZ-V9tXdo-UUepun-25soz18-23ju5zx-UQQ1EQ-XAuYD5-T5hEUb-21Wza6M-V6Ssdn-23LeTin-JEUzr7-XiHkmx-SpezKw-UGCt5z-V2QLeM-piiHEy-naH1Ct-ZVbbzu-24Zksx1-AFvAMY-FHWbUH-9Hubsf-TJT3s6-DmC3m2-UQVYKQ-V7wN7Q-UYRmWe-niNvNS-TdTMkw-fEVuXE-UTwatZ regards Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullCityB17 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 If I’m into modelling north of Doncaster can I justify one of these. I did see a pic of a departmental one at York but can anyone confirm they did work in this area. You can justify the Dapol Class 122 if you want the Loadhaul livery one as this worked all over before being preserved at the Weardale Railway in BR Green. The Loadhaul one went all around Yorkshire and North East being based at Thornaby before being stored there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted June 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2018 Hi PMP, search 121034 on Flickr and this is one of the images regards Mike Every days a school day, was that a recent modification for Chiltern units? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) The Dapol model doesn’t appear to include anti ride steps, saw the model at GCR yesterday. I can’t see any prototype images of them on the 121 or 122’s on a quick web search either. The plates on the base of the doors (I assume that is what is being referred to) are nothing to do with 'anti-riding'. They are the plates which form part of the electro-magnetic central locking mechanism. On the limited edition OO gauge model of the Chiltern car, they are separate etched parts, pre-painted and with double-sided self-adhesive pads to attach them to the car. They were only fitted to the two Chiltern cars (W55020/34), as part of the modermisation which allowed them to run until last year. Only 55034 can be modelled in Chiltern condition as 55020 received alterations which would require changes to the tooling. (CJL) Edited June 18, 2018 by dibber25 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnfromoz Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 The plates on the base of the doors (I assume that is what is being referred to) are nothing to do with 'anti-riding'. They are the plates which form part of the electro-magnetic central locking mechanism. On the limited edition OO gauge model of the Chiltern car, they are separate etched parts, pre-painted and with double-sided self-adhesive pads to attach them to the car. They were only fitted to the two Chiltern cars (W55020/34), as part of the modermisation which allowed them to run until last year. Only 55034 can be modelled in Chiltern condition as 55020 received alterations which would require changes to the tooling. (CJL) Really interesting. Thanks. They somewhat ruin the asthetics of this vehicle though. A purely functional modification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Really interesting. Thanks. They somewhat ruin the asthetics of this vehicle though. A purely functional modification. Yes, they look like what they are, an afterthought. Happily they've only been applied to the two ex-Chiltern cars but several of the other preserved 121s and 122s have suffered more substantial modifications to fit them as Sandite vehicles etc. Was looking at one recently under restoration at Rushden. The 'easy' end is being nicely restored but it's difficult to tell what they are going to do with the other end, where doors and windows have been plated over. (CJL) Edited June 24, 2018 by dibber25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickb4141 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Was anything shown at Telford yesterday regarding these? If anyone has any photos to post, they would be gratefully received - thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullCityB17 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Sorry didn’t get any pictures but the Class 122 will be here before the Class 121. Class 122 - End Year/Beginning Next Year Class 121 - A few months later. If you are interested in the Loadhaul 122 then let Dapol know as this is a possibility in future along with Network Rail Class 121 with cameras (non functioning) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Not the best shots as it was busy around the stand all day 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Glazing looks a bit 'prismatic' but other than that, very hard to resist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted September 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2018 Some shots of the bubble cars on my Telford review if anyone wants to take a look. http://railblogs.co.uk/telford18/ Rich 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Sorry didn’t get any pictures but the Class 122 will be here before the Class 121. Class 122 - End Year/Beginning Next Year Class 121 - A few months later. If you are interested in the Loadhaul 122 then let Dapol know as this is a possibility in future along with Network Rail Class 121 with cameras (non functioning) when I asked regarding 'Sandite' versions, the answer was in the affirmative, louvres et al. regards Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Some shots of the bubble cars on my Telford review if anyone wants to take a look. http://railblogs.co.uk/telford18/ Rich As one who couldn't get there this time, I enjoyed reading your report. Thanks for posting the link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickb4141 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 02F860D8-AA17-4E04-9F42-CDEBB11DF48A.jpeg915B93AE-C215-4979-A553-63E85B3DA0F2.jpeg Not the best shots as it was busy around the stand all day Thanks Steve, much obliged for the photos - they look great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickb4141 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Some shots of the bubble cars on my Telford review if anyone wants to take a look. http://railblogs.co.uk/telford18/ Rich Great blog Rich - very informative for those of us that couldn’t make the show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted September 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2018 As one who couldn't get there this time, I enjoyed reading your report. Thanks for posting the link. Great blog Rich - very informative for those of us that couldn’t make the show. Thanks for the comments guys - not intended to be a in-depth be all and end all, but I've had a number of positive comments from people who enjoyed it and like you two, couldn't make the show itself. The full layout pics are now up if you've not seen them, but coming back to topic, the bubble cars looked very nice. Way out of any region or timescale for me, but the GWR 150 brown and cream looked stunning! Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Managed to get a couple of not so great phone photos at Telford, showing both 121 and 122. Second one gives a glimpse of the interior though, which gives an idea of how it looks. (nb conveniently lit by the Dapol display lighting, not "onboard" lighting!) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickb4141 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Managed to get a couple of not so great phone photos at Telford, showing both 121 and 122. Second one gives a glimpse of the interior though, which gives an idea of how it looks. (nb conveniently lit by the Dapol display lighting, not "onboard" lighting!) IMG_20180902_112412.jpgIMG_20180902_112318.jpg These do look excellent, even better than the 00 gauge version, with regard to the much better interior arrangement. Have Dapol suggested any further developments with these( ie Class 116/117/118 DMU’s?) ...and could this be why the Heljan proposals seem to have disappeared off the radar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 These do look excellent, even better than the 00 gauge version, with regard to the much better interior arrangement. Have Dapol suggested any further developments with these( ie Class 116/117/118 DMU’s?) ...and could this be why the Heljan proposals seem to have disappeared off the radar? Can't help there I'm afraid, I didn't see anything to suggest Dapol will expand into the other classes, nor did I see any on the Heljan stand (I wasn't paying a lot of attention though admittedly). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted September 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2018 The plates on the base of the doors (I assume that is what is being referred to) are nothing to do with 'anti-riding'. They are the plates which form part of the electro-magnetic central locking mechanism. On the limited edition OO gauge model of the Chiltern car, they are separate etched parts, pre-painted and with double-sided self-adhesive pads to attach them to the car. They were only fitted to the two Chiltern cars (W55020/34), as part of the modermisation which allowed them to run until last year. Only 55034 can be modelled in Chiltern condition as 55020 received alterations which would require changes to the tooling. (CJL) Bit off topic for this thread but the DMUs that have been updated for the Swanage Railway to run its Wareham service in 2019, have the same electro-magnetic central locking system. May be of use to someone! Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullCityB17 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Good blog. Unfortunately the pictures do not show the detailed mocquet seating in the Class 121/122 (I hope that I have spelt that correctly). . Edited September 7, 2018 by HullCityB17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 Advertising showing on the Dapol website now. https://www.Dapol.co.uk/For-your-viewing-pleasure-O-Gauge-122-Deco-Samples 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Bit off topic for this thread but the DMUs that have been updated for the Swanage Railway to run its Wareham service in 2019, have the same electro-magnetic central locking system. May be of use to someone! Rich Yes. Anything that runs on the mainline network, that has slam doors, will have these plates fitted. It is a requirement that central locking is fitted. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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