RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 3, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2019 The Jinty (a rule 1 loco ) was also bought yesterday for the bargain price of £150 from Dapol due to a tiny glue mark just under the dome. A quick application of some soot powder has virtually made this disappear. As a Triang/Hornby Jinty was my first loco as a kid, I just had to buy it... 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Excellent choice of Loco Ade, I have a British Railways one with a Paul Chetter Sound and it really barks. Wagons look like a good purchase for your line as well mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 3, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2019 I was really taken the sound of yours and I will certainly add the same sound chip to mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 3, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Got some track down on baseboard two tonight with droppers in place. The main line is on the left, then the loop then the engine shed loop to the right. Edited March 3, 2019 by Adrian Stevenson Better photo needed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 3, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2019 Got the coal load fitted to the Jinty as well tonight. I have some brown paint being delivered tomorrow so I can prime the baseboards ready for when the scenic's get started. Which won't be for a long time yet I know, but it will still be progress. Getting a quote for a concrete base for the log cabin this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Adrian Stevenson said: Good to see track going down. But my first reaction was that the tracks seem too close together. I don't want to teach you how to suck eggs, but a check on clearances etc might be worthwhile. Of course it could be a trick of the camera, or my ageing eyesight. All the best 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 4, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2019 Hi Tony, thanks for the comment. I think it is just the pic as I took the sizes from the O gauge Guild Guide. http://www.gauge0guild.com/manual/07_d7_1_1.pdf Cheers, Ade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted March 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2019 Hi Adrian, I agree with Mulgabill. There must be some weird distortion in that photo if those tracks have 77mm centres ( the closest that any two adjacent tracks should be). I think it would be worth re-checking before you get too far with track laying. Best wishes, Peter 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I have to agree, the spacing between the inner rails does appear to be less than gauge, whereas it should be more 6’ = 72”: 4’ 8.5” = 56.5”. The ratio should be about 5:4 if in doubt, put a couple of coaches on the track and ensure they pass one another. best Simon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 4, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2019 Yes, they pass fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Cracking on well with the layout Adrian you'll have it built before buy a shed at this rate.......you been taking lessons from Andy P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 5, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2019 Thanks! I got two coats of the brown paint onto baseboard one last night and also modified two Peco points adding the wires. Cheers, Ade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 5, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) Just to put minds at rest here is a quick snap of the track. 42mm between each rail. Thanks again the concerns raised. You guys are great. I really like the helpful and supportive atmosphere here. Cheers, Ade. Edited March 5, 2019 by Adrian Stevenson 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 5, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2019 Baseboard 1 painted with two coats of "Leaf Brown". 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Very impressive mate, should have got you around to lay my Track, haha, still there's always next tome I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted March 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Adrian Stevenson said: Just to put minds at rest here is a quick snap of the track. 42mm between each rail. Thanks again the concerns raised. You guys are great. I really like the helpful and supportive atmosphere here. Cheers, Ade. Hi, If minimum is 77 then 42 between plus 32 for two haves is technically a bit short. Not a lot admittedly (tho nearly 10% of the gap between the tracks) and enough have mentioned it to suggest it shows... cheers Edited March 5, 2019 by Hal Nail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 don't forget the thickness of the rail head! 16+1.6+42+1.6+16=77.2 at least, I assume that's how it's calculated. best Simon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Simond said: don't forget the thickness of the rail head! Board of Trade requirements for the distance between adjacent lines are measurements between the running faces of the rails... so the thickness of the rail can be omitted. Hence a "6 foot" is 42mm and a "ten foot" is 70mm. What I have not seen is a description of how the 6-foot changes in relation to the radius of the curves - any one know? Edited March 5, 2019 by Western Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 5, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2019 In the Guild PDF, this is mentioned about spacing on curves: Note: The Guild Standard track centre distances are 80mm between main lines and 90mm between sidings. Additional spacing may be necessary on curves, refer to Part 2, Section 1.3. The track centres shown in the table above include a 3mm allowance for the width of the rail-heads. But I don't have part two section1.3 to hand. Checkout the Guild site. Hope that helps? Cheers, Ade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 "Board of Trade requirements for the distance between adjacent lines are measurements between the running faces of the rails... so the thickness of the rail can be omitted." yes, I agree, I was cheating! "Hence a "6 foot" is 42mm and a "ten foot" is 70mm. " yes but - railwaymen refer to the area between the rails as "the four foot" even though it is rather bigger, so the "ten foot" is actually something bigger, such as 10' 8.5", which would scale at 74.95mm. I rather think the "modeller's approach" is to put a 42mm wide bit of wood/plastic/metal between the rails and use that to gauge double track. If you want to get widening on double track, make your bit of wood/plastic/metal a couple of inches long, and it will automatically increase the spacing for you. best Simon 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 10, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2019 Had a good afternoon today. Track is virtually laid now on baseboard No2. Bar the two points leading to the goods shed siding and loading bay. I ran out of plastic insulating rail joiners... Also got a coat of brown paint on. Worked out the location of the engine shed, which is really my datum for where the home signal, platform and loading bay will sit. I now have to cut the inspection pit for the engine shed. Cheers, Ade. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Sounds good mate, that shop in Swad has some insulated Rail joiners, you should have rang me, haha. Also the little Model Shop in Gresley is open Sunday Mornings and he sometimes has some second hand bits like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adrian Stevenson Posted March 10, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2019 Thanks Andy. Got some coming this week via mail order. Got another coat of paint on now. The engine shed will be in line with the Iron minks on the loading bay spur. The 5 plank GWR wagon was often left on the runaround loop line for coaling the engines, according to the book and photos in the book. Kind of odd considering there was a coaling stage under the water tower behind the engine shed. Here is a quick snap. Cheers, Ade. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted March 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Adrian Stevenson said: The 5 plank GWR wagon was often left on the runaround loop line for coaling the engines, according to the book and photos in the book. Kind of odd considering there was a coaling stage under the water tower behind the engine shed. Putting it where it is in your photo meant coal could be shovelled directly into the bunker of the branch loco, by simply stopping next to the wagon. Run rounds can pass through the loco shed: there won’t be anything going on inside it during the day. Using the coaling stage requires shovelling the coal from wagon to stage, then stage to loco. Picture yourself as the fireman having to shovel twice, and you’d want to put the loco coal wagon on the loop close to the main... Edited March 10, 2019 by Regularity 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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