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5 hours ago, steve45 said:

That could be me, I used to spot at Wolverhampton Low Level:whistle:

 

Steve, any unusual sightings or interlopers that could work as an interesting operation at West Park?  Or any other insights for that matter?

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There were a lot of unusual locos visiting for Stafford Road Works. Quite a few were used locally on running in turns including a 15xx tank on a stopper to Worcester and a 9700 condenser on a trip at Swan Village.

This page will give you a guide to some of the foreigners visiting. 

https://shedbashuk.blogspot.com/2014/11/wolverhampton-works-1955-1963.html?m=1

In 1962 D1000 did some trips on stoppers to Stourbridge during crew training for the introduction of diesels to Paddington services. 

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Another blog site created by @jonny777of this parish has a couple of spotting logs for Stafford Road in 1962 which may be of interest.

 

https://spottinglogs.co.uk/spotting-records-1950s-60s-70s-80s/

 

https://spottinglogs.co.uk/?s=wolverhampton

 

Others included cover Oxley, Wellington Tyseley and Stourbridge plus the LMR sheds in the area.

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On 30/03/2021 at 18:51, steve45 said:

I remember a Jinty, but to be honest I'd have to find my ABC to give you any definitive answers.

 

Sorry I can't help any further, I will try and find my book


If anything pops up in your book I’d love to know!

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On 31/03/2021 at 11:57, TheSignalEngineer said:

Another blog site created by @jonny777of this parish has a couple of spotting logs for Stafford Road in 1962 which may be of interest.

 

https://spottinglogs.co.uk/spotting-records-1950s-60s-70s-80s/

 

https://spottinglogs.co.uk/?s=wolverhampton

 

Others included cover Oxley, Wellington Tyseley and Stourbridge plus the LMR sheds in the area.


Thanks SignalEngineer, a super help set of resources there.

 

For those that saw it I bet it must have been a strange site seeing D1000 trundling along on stoppers to Stourbridge.

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3 hours ago, turtlebah said:

For those that saw it I bet it must have been a strange site seeing D1000 trundling along on stoppers to Stourbridge.

Some photos of it appeared on the 'Railways of the West Midlands' Facebook group at the beginning of February. Here are just a couple of them.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/954843288350285/permalink/1071904193310860/

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/954843288350285/permalink/1071449570022989/

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Started work on a quick mock up of West Park No2 box controlling the station area.  West Park No1 box controls the station throat and West Park junction (off scene and the other side of the warehouse bridge).

 

Whilst this mock-up isn’t great the real thing will resemble something similar to Exeter Middle!  Given the tight space it’ll overhang the platform 1 road a little.

 

Below a black 5 splutters past West Park No2 box shunting the evening parcels unloaded stock into the centre road ready for the morning fast parcels to Snow Hill and then Paddington.

 

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34 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said:

Some photos of it appeared on the 'Railways of the West Midlands' Facebook group at the beginning of February. Here are just a couple of them.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/954843288350285/permalink/1071904193310860/

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/954843288350285/permalink/1071449570022989/


Thanks for the link.  Looks very odd seeing a Western with three suburban coaches!  Quite a funny picture to be honest.

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The view from the warehouse bridge, a usual haunt of the local teenage spotters.

 

A grange class brings in a mixed rake on a stopper from Hereford (Collett, Hawksworth and porthole coaches).  The black 5 in platform 1 waits to depart with a semi-fast to Shrewsbury.

 

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Sorry to be a pain (armchair rivet counter): No.1, No.2 etc feels like ‘the other railway’s’ box naming style.  GWR would use a descriptive style e.g. North, South, Middle, Goods, etc. So given your description of what they control, I would suggest ‘West Park Station Signal Box’ on scene and West Park Junction Signal Box off scene.

Obviously this assumes that 1. It’s easy to change, and 2. You haven’t deliberately chosen ‘No.2’ because you like it.

Paul.

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8 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said:

Need a slim locking fitter in there. A box like Hayle or Dawlish would make a good prototype for that situation but you would need a possession to clean the locking.


You certainly would. I’ve looked at Hayle, but not Dawlish so a very good shout.

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10 hours ago, 5BarVT said:

Sorry to be a pain (armchair rivet counter): No.1, No.2 etc feels like ‘the other railway’s’ box naming style.  GWR would use a descriptive style e.g. North, South, Middle, Goods, etc. So given your description of what they control, I would suggest ‘West Park Station Signal Box’ on scene and West Park Junction Signal Box off scene.

Obviously this assumes that 1. It’s easy to change, and 2. You haven’t deliberately chosen ‘No.2’ because you like it.

Paul.


Thanks Paul, to be honest the signs I got printed from Sankey just come with No1 and No2 as default, but I’m planning on getting some bespoke signs done.  ‘West Park Station Box’, as you mentioned, is a front runner at the moment.  Need to have a look at a few prototypes - any advice is more than welcome.

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8 minutes ago, turtlebah said:


You certainly would. I’ve looked at Hayle, but not Dawlish so a very good shout.

IIRC Hayle had sliding windows at the front which ran the length of the frame.

Dawlish had some upright girders which curved out at the top over the platform. The front has been filled  in with bricks but used to be infill panels between the girders if you can find an out picture. It looks as if you could take the whole of the front out.

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14 minutes ago, turtlebah said:


Thanks Paul, to be honest the signs I got printed from Sankey just come with No1 and No2 as default, but I’m planning on getting some bespoke signs done.  ‘West Park Station Box’, as you mentioned, is a front runner at the moment.  Need to have a look at a few prototypes - any advice is more than welcome.

West Park Station Box would match in with prototypes like Hartlebury Station Box. Couldn't really call them  West Park East and West Park West.

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22 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said:

IIRC Hayle had sliding windows at the front which ran the length of the frame.

Dawlish had some upright girders which curved out at the top over the platform. The front has been filled  in with bricks but used to be infill panels between the girders if you can find an out picture. It looks as if you could take the whole of the front out.


Dawlish looks just the ticket!  Struggling to find a photo from yesteryear, but I might have something in one of my western region books.

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I was back to front at Dawlish, those panels at the front were only put there to stop the bricks falling on the platform by the look of things. There were big access panels at the back which would be no good to you. Lots of stuff in this thread.

 

 

There was something unusual about the frame in this box. I can't put my finger on it at the moment. I think I tangled with about 20 frame variations in my outside and D.O. days and I wasn't even the locking specialist.  @The Stationmaster Mike, was it the one with 3-bar VT trays hung back to front?

 

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