TomScrut Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 Also, on another note, the 3 point table doesn't seem to make a difference, just done a LS4 and LP4 with 3 point table and at high speeds there are one or two plateaus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Andymsa said: If I remember your using decoder pro, has this been updated for v5 chips I have been using the LS5 settings, which for everything other than sound seem to be pretty much like for like. I mean to buy a LokProgrammer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Also, on another note, the 3 point table doesn't seem to make a difference, just done a LS4 and LP4 with 3 point table and at high speeds there are one or two plateaus If you have CV29 set to use A custom speed table (which you infer earlier) then the 3 points don’t work as you have overridden them. what are LS4 and LP4? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, WIMorrison said: If you have CV29 set to use A custom speed table (which you infer earlier) then the 3 points don’t work as you have overridden them. what are LS4 and LP4? I have set bit 4 of CV29 to 0 to switch it back to 3 point. Loksound 4 Lokpilot 4. In fact the Loksound was a new loco that had been run in but nothing else altered. Maybe ought to check Hornby hadn't mapped a curve I just assumed the table was turned off. Edited December 13, 2020 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I ran into this in the spring when writing some stuff for a big layout. The LokSound V5 Decoders come in two types - those for the US and those for Europe (including UK). The US types are the "DCC" type, and support CV2,5,6, in the past they were called "Select". The Europe/UK types support only the 28 point curve, though CV's 2 and 5 set the bottom and top of the speed range, replacing CV's 67 and 94 respectively, which cannot be user-adjusted. So, for the typical decoders available from UK sound producers, you have CV2, CV5, and then CV68-93 for the steps between. Both the LokProgrammer and JMRI deal with this correctly. - Nigel 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymsa Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Nigelcliffe said: I ran into this in the spring when writing some stuff for a big layout. The LokSound V5 Decoders come in two types - those for the US and those for Europe (including UK). The US types are the "DCC" type, and support CV2,5,6, in the past they were called "Select". The Europe/UK types support only the 28 point curve, though CV's 2 and 5 set the bottom and top of the speed range, replacing CV's 67 and 94 respectively, which cannot be user-adjusted. So, for the typical decoders available from UK sound producers, you have CV2, CV5, and then CV68-93 for the steps between. Both the LokProgrammer and JMRI deal with this correctly. - Nigel Very interesting. So if understand correctly the ones marked as dcc are for the US market. I am fairly sure I have got these from my last order to lippe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Andymsa said: Very interesting. So if understand correctly the ones marked as dcc are for the US market. I am fairly sure I have got these from my last order to lippe No idea what you were shipped, but the Europe versions are usually labelled "DCC / MM / SX / M4", ie. multiprotocol. The US are labelled as just "DCC". It was my understanding that ESU are fairly careful about keeping US/EU markets apart, but possible that hasn't happened. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, Andymsa said: Very interesting. So if understand correctly the ones marked as dcc are for the US market. I am fairly sure I have got these from my last order to lippe Yes but are pretty readily available. I buy them as they are a couple of quid cheaper and I have no need for DC functionality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Yes but are pretty readily available. I buy them as they are a couple of quid cheaper and I have no need for DC functionality. Both types support DC running. The differences are in the other digital protocols, the acceleration multipliers (get different rates of acceleration/deceleration for the same CV values), and the way speed curves work. I don't know if there are sound file differences (there were on the V4 Select types). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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