RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2021 I thought some of you might like to see this, it's the first stage of an oil painting I'm working on. A pair of 9Fs in the shed. I'm not sure where it is, or indeed what the original title of the painting is (it's from an original by David Shepherd). If anyone can help me out with that it would be much appreciated! Similarly, I always welcome constructive criticism and feedback - thanks. The picture is 70 x 39 cms. I've done a few others too, they are on my website here. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, Graham T said: I've done a few others too, they are on my website here. Love the Tornado in the Mach Loop... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Its here, scroll down "On Shed" https://www.railart.co.uk/gallery/shepherd.shtml 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 7, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2021 Great, thank you! In fact that's the site I found the painting on that I'm working from - had just forgotten! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Graham T said: I thought some of you might like to see this, it's the first stage of an oil painting I'm working on. A pair of 9Fs in the shed. I'm not sure where it is, or indeed what the original title of the painting is (it's from an original by David Shepherd). If anyone can help me out with that it would be much appreciated! Similarly, I always welcome constructive criticism and feedback - thanks. The picture is 70 x 39 cms. I've done a few others too, they are on my website here. This is to be your version of the David Shepperd painting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 7, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2021 Yes Paul, that's the plan. Hoping I haven't bitten off more than I can chew. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Just now, Graham T said: Yes Paul, that's the plan. Hoping I haven't bitten off more than I can chew. Will be interesting to compare them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 7, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2021 I've done a bit more this evening, but too dark to get a decent photo now, so I'll post an update here tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Excellent work, and a great variety of subjects. You obviously have used a grid to get the proportions correct, nothing wrong with that in my opinion, some of the great masters did the same or used a pinhole camera (camera obscura), eg Vameer. I still use that sometimes for portraits and technical subjects, ie something with a very distinctive shape such as aircraft, cars, etc. However I now use an epidiascope. I always work from photographs and what I really like is to frame the picture on the canvas and get an idea of how the final picture will look. I project onto to canvas and sketch the outline and location of key features, eyes, mouth, etc. I am not a working artist, it's just a hobby, but if you were working for a living 'short cuts' save a lot of time and anguish! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2021 Thanks Jeff. Yes the grid is really helpful, but I still find drawing locomotive wheels a real headache - far too many curves! I don't have much time for those ultra-purists who insist you shouldn't even use a straight edge; I'm pretty sure the masters would have used every aid available to them. And if you're making art for a living, then why on earth would you choose to make things more difficult for yourself? Anyway, thanks again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2021 Here's how things looked when I threw in the towel yesterday evening. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Wheels, especially steam locomotive wheels are difficult. There are templates for technical drawing but you need the right size and strictly speaking they do not account for perspective. Getting the depth of the spokes within the wheel rim and the hub in the right place is particularly tricky.....the epidiascope can ease this. Whilst drawing skills are essential, especially when adapting an existing picture I would rather cut out the uncertainty and get on with paint application. I have seen potentially great paintings let down by inaccurate drawing...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2021 I think the drawing is critical to be honest. You can have the best values and colour in the world, but if the underlying drawing's wrong then you're not going to be able to make a good painting. I do lots and lots of measuring directly onto the painting, and then rely on the Mk 1 eyeball after that. If it looks wrong, then it probably is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Yes, precisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2021 I think that as long as the drawing and the values are good, the colours hardly matter (within reason!) What sort of stuff do you paint? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) A whole variety of subjects but I discovered some years ago that figures and portraits were within my ability so I have been doing some private commissions that I can't really share. However here's some I can. These are all acrylic. For the Meteor picture I assembled 1/72 kits and photographed at different angles. Edited March 8, 2021 by Jeff Smith 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2021 That certainly is a variety! I like the fox especially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2021 The sitrep from yesterday's efforts. I will need to work this one up in layers I think. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2021 This may not look very different from the last photo, but it's taken quite a bit of work to get this far. Most of it now needs to be allowed to dry for a while, but I can make a start on the main locomotive. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 13, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2021 Here's the latest, I've now blocked in the engine. The more of this I paint, the longer I think it is going to take to actually get finished! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 14, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just a little bit more done over the weekend. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Have you read David Shepherd's book The Man Who Loves Giants? This painting is included and is actually the two locos he bought from BR. 75029 and 92203. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted March 14, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2021 I haven't read it, but just found a used copy online at a very good price, so will do soon! I didn't realise that those two locos were in the painting, nice to know that - thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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