RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 19, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 19, 2023 I've now painted the black/brown on the chassis, put some Railmatch brake dust on, and a little bit of graphite on the steps. The paintwork on this side looks a bit patchy for some reason; I might try to fix that - perhaps! 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted August 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2023 The patchy paint looks alright as it's wear and tear... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadLeaves Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Graham T said: I've now painted the black/brown on the chassis, put some Railmatch brake dust on, and a little bit of graphite on the steps. The paintwork on this side looks a bit patchy for some reason; I might try to fix that - perhaps! For me, the "patchy" side looks the better of the two. I'd characterise it as "hard working but cared for". 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 19, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, John Besley said: The patchy paint looks alright as it's wear and tear... 5 minutes ago, BroadLeaves said: For me, the "patchy" side looks the better of the two. I'd characterise it as "hard working but cared for". Thanks for the vote of confidence - always good to have some help in making decisions! I'll leave the green alone then. Here are some perhaps slightly better photos - I'm wondering if there's anything else I should do? Maybe try to suggest a bit of oiliness on the springs and rear axleboxes? Anywhere else? 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Graham T said: Thanks for the vote of confidence - always good to have some help in making decisions! I'll leave the green alone then. Here are some perhaps slightly better photos - I'm wondering if there's anything else I should do? Maybe try to suggest a bit of oiliness on the springs and rear axleboxes? Anywhere else? Very nice such a typical GW loco. Worn handles to cab? I do like these loco's which reminds me I must get around to fitting the ashpan to both of mine. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 20, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, KNP said: Very nice such a typical GW loco. Worn handles to cab? I do like these loco's which reminds me I must get around to fitting the ashpan to both of mine. Thanks Kevin. I did try putting some graphite on the cab door rails but it doesn't show much. Perhaps I should add a touch of oily steel paint, do you think? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 18/08/2023 at 11:39, Tortuga said: Thanks Jonathan. I knew one was RHD and the other was LHD, but I couldn’t remember which was which. I seem to remember the Hornby (ex-Airfix) version is slightly ‘coarser’ scale-wise than the Bachy one. Does anyone know of a conversion kit to convert the Hornby/Airfix to a RHD version? I have an Airfix one from the bay of E that someone has swapped the reverser over on, but I’d like to take it a step further, which would mean a new backhead. Brassmasters sell an etch of replacement splashers which can be made up as the later pressed type or the earlier beaded type that most of the MR loco's had. They are also the correct size unlike the oversize Airfix or Bachmann ones. This is intended for the Bachmann loco and I don't know if the Airfix wheels would permit scale size splashers. For Boiler fittings and, perhaps, backplate too, you could try Alan Gibson. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 21, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, Barclay said: Brassmasters sell an etch of replacement splashers which can be made up as the later pressed type or the earlier beaded type that most of the MR loco's had. They are also the correct size unlike the oversize Airfix or Bachmann ones. This is intended for the Bachmann loco and I don't know if the Airfix wheels would permit scale size splashers. For Boiler fittings and, perhaps, backplate too, you could try Alan Gibson. Another one for @Tortuga to look at could be 247 Developments? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 21, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2023 It's been too hot here today to do much more than sit in a semi-stupor (what many would call my normal state) trying to read NATO documents... Ugh. But I did take a short break to weather the dayglo Express Dairy milk tank, once again done with a watery mix of black and brown acrylic. Here it is next to the rest of the herd. Do you think I should make it a bit dirtier? And the obligatory cruel close-up. That pannier is climbing towards the top of the list of weathering candidates too. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Keane Posted August 21, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2023 Graham I think the issue is not one of dirt but of paint fade - bright paints like this fade over time and its not an easy thing to change once you have picked your base colour? And I know that doesn't help - sorry. Andy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted August 21, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, Andy Keane said: Graham I think the issue is not one of dirt but of paint fade - bright paints like this fade over time and its not an easy thing to change once you have picked your base colour? And I know that doesn't help - sorry. Andy It's actually not too difficult. :) In the dim distant past I have used white gouache thinned down with Microsol (not a cheap thinner, but I think I may have found a source of it's key component! Acrylic paint thinners will probably do the trick) painted over a base colour gives a good fading effect. Being water based, it is dead easy to remove if you're not happy with it. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 21, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, 57xx said: It's actually not too difficult. :) In the dim distant past I have used white gouache thinned down with Microsol (not a cheap thinner, but I think I may have found a source of it's key component! Acrylic paint thinners will probably do the trick) painted over a base colour gives a good fading effect. Being water based, it is dead easy to remove if you're not happy with it. Thanks, that sounds like a good suggestion. I’ll give it a try tomorrow. What could possibly go wrong?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortuga Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, 57xx said: It's actually not too difficult. :) In the dim distant past I have used white gouache thinned down with Microsol (not a cheap thinner, but I think I may have found a source of it's key component! Acrylic paint thinners will probably do the trick) painted over a base colour gives a good fading effect. Being water based, it is dead easy to remove if you're not happy with it. That’s a nifty trick. Have you tried it on wagons painted black? Just wondering if it might just be the ticket for fading PO liveries to achieve that ‘almost obliterated’ look? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold brumtb Posted August 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Tortuga said: That’s a nifty trick. Have you tried it on wagons painted black? Just wondering if it might just be the ticket for fading PO liveries to achieve that ‘almost obliterated’ look? Something I've used in the past is ordinary talcum powder. Used as you would a weathering powder it gives quite a nice faded look . Tony 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 22, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, brumtb said: Something I've used in the past is ordinary talcum powder. Used as you would a weathering powder it gives quite a nice faded look . Tony That's an interesting idea too; I've got some white weathering powder hidden away somewhere... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted August 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Graham T said: That's an interesting idea too; I've got some white weathering powder hidden away somewhere... Morning Graham. The caveat with white weathering powder is a little goes a long way. It can be placed, for example, in the centre of a panel then 'worked' from the centre out to fade colour. Here's some used on a Collett coach end. 4 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 22, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Morning Graham. The caveat with white weathering powder is a little goes a long way. It can be placed, for example, in the centre of a panel then 'worked' from the centre out to fade colour. Here's some used on a Collett coach end. Thanks for heads-up Rob - I shall apply sparingly! But that's the sort of look I think I should be going for. More importantly, how's the eye? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortuga Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, brumtb said: Something I've used in the past is ordinary talcum powder. Used as you would a weathering powder it gives quite a nice faded look . Tony I’ll give it a go! (I can see my shopping list for Stafford Exhibition is going to include a couple of cheap second hand wagons to practice on!) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted August 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, Graham T said: Thanks for heads-up Rob - I shall apply sparingly! But that's the sort of look I think I should be going for. More importantly, how's the eye? Much better. Copious amounts of eye drops pre-bed, same this morning. Rob 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post NHY 581 Posted August 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2023 Regarding fading, I've also used 'sand' weathering powder to fade green. Same caveat applies....... 9 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 22, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Glad to hear that we probably won't need a whip round to get you a parrot and eyepatch 🙂 I need to do some experimenting with powders; I haven't used them much yet. Edited August 22, 2023 by Graham T spelig 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted August 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2023 16 hours ago, Tortuga said: That’s a nifty trick. Have you tried it on wagons painted black? Just wondering if it might just be the ticket for fading PO liveries to achieve that ‘almost obliterated’ look? Not yet, i used it on some buildings to fade the light and dark stone. Ir gave that dusty white faded look nicely. I wouls think it will work on a wagon, it was picked up as a technique from a youtube video. The guy was in the US fading various box cars. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 23, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Very little time available to spend at Chuffnell R today, unfortunately, but I did add a touch of oily steel to the handrails on 4804. I still wonder if she looks a bit too clean? And I used some white weathering powder to try to make the paint on the Express Dairy tank look a bit faded. I only used powder on the upper surfaces and ends, as I thought those would probably be the most exposed to the elements (and it was rather difficult to get to the underside of the tank as well, to be fair...) I wonder if perhaps it needs a little more; I'll probably sleep on it and see what I think of it tomorrow. Easier to add more than to try to take it away, I suspect. Here's how it looked before applying the powder, for comparison: Edited August 23, 2023 by Graham T 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Keane Posted August 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 23, 2023 tanker much improved in my view - I would say about right Andy 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted August 26, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 26, 2023 The mojo seems to have departed for points west recently, not sure why. Trying to motivate myself to do a bit more work on the rolling stock. The old 4F, number 4312, has had a splodge of brake dust added to the loco (no need to do the tender, as I discovered that it doesn't have any brakes!) and I also put some graphite on some of the steps and handrails. I think that's probably it; not sure that locos in the 30s would have had much, if any, rust showing on them? 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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