Stanley Melrose Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Can anyone identify this van, please? I believe it to have been built by the LNER but I'd appreciate it if anyone can confirm this and identify the diagram number. Any other details, e.g. wheelbase, would be much appreciated so I can see if there is a OO gauge rtr or kit available. Thanks in anticipation Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted January 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Stanley Melrose said: Can anyone identify this van, please? I believe it to have been built by the LNER but I'd appreciate it if anyone can confirm this and identify the diagram number. Any other details, e.g. wheelbase, would be much appreciated so I can see if there is a OO gauge rtr or kit available. Thanks in anticipation Stan The DM prefix indicates a wagon of LMS origin; the secondary suspension is also an LMS characteristic. CJI. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41516 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Looks to be a LMS D1808/D1812/D1830 van (minor differences in wheel size and width over door fastenings). All three diagrans seem to have been numbered randomly rather than in series by lots. "Absence of block numbers makes it rather difficult to be certain exactly which vehicles were built to this [D1808] diagram in that D1812 and D1830 were almost identical, and, as far as running numbers are concerned, the three diagrams will be considered together" LMS Wagons Vol1, Essery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted January 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, cctransuk said: The DM prefix indicates a wagon of LMS origin; the secondary suspension is also an LMS characteristic. CJI. Further research in LMS Wagons 1 suggests it may well be from one of Diagrams 1808, 1812 or 1830. CJI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Most certainly an exLMS van to D1808/1812/1830. Not available in RTR or kit 00 but could be kit bashed out of a few different bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Melrose Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 Many thanks to all who replied. Here's another one that I'd like to identify (attached). Both these vans were in the Bank Hall Breakdown Train. Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41516 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) LMS D1891/D1897/D1978/D2039, again all outwardly similar but with minor differences between diagrams. I would err towards it being a D2039 with three part ends (and perhaps slightly lower door lock location -they seem to be on the 5th full plank up on D2039, rather than the 6th on earlier diagrams - although the thin plank below the lock suggested it has been replanked at some point) and with BR era diagonal strapping on the sides. Edited January 21, 2022 by 41516 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2022 I believe the steps were a later addition for departmental purposes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41516 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, The Johnster said: I believe the steps were a later addition for departmental purposes. And the additional vertical handrail on DM227650 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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