RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted August 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2022 I am currently attempting to build a streamlined duchess, "City of Lancaster", but have hit a snag. Several parts were missing which were no issue as i could scratch build them (cab roof, cylinder cover plates, etc). However, the buffer shrouds are also missing and i am looking at different methods of making them as no-one that i am aware of makes them seperately. I have a body from a Hornby model so have something to use as a guide. Question. Should i try and shape the shroud using brass and roll a cone type shape, or take a mold of the Hornby one and cast it in resin or melted white metal? If casting is recommended, anyone have any advice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicktoix Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 3D printing? if you can draw it. Nick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 DJH make a kit - I wonder if they would consider selling you a set of buffers? I have approached other manufacturers before about this kind of thing and they have always been helpful. You have taken on quite a challenge - I would love to see some photo's of the kit! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted August 24, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2022 My drawing skills are very limited, so reaching out to DJH might be the best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, ianLMS said: My drawing skills are very limited, so reaching out to DJH might be the best option. My understanding is that DJH have a policy of not supplying parts, except to kit purchasers as replacements for faulty / damaged components. CJI 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted August 24, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2022 Another thought is that there is a good chance that the main body would have the buffers as part of the casting with just the buffer heads seperate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicktoix Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I'll see what I can do. Nick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicktoix Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 How will these do you. They will need cleaning up and some filler to blend them to the body but they might be ok. PM me your address. Nick 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicktoix Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 On 24/08/2022 at 18:47, ianLMS said: Another thought is that there is a good chance that the main body would have the buffers as part of the casting with just the buffer heads seperate. They are castings enclosed in sheet metal casings. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Nicktoix said: They are castings enclosed in sheet metal casings. Nick It was the model that was referred to - not the prototype. CJI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted August 26, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 26, 2022 Thank you so much Nick. I really appreciate it. Looks just the job!!! I have sent over address. Let me know what i owe or will donate a few squid to the charity of your choice!! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted August 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) Buffers arrived safe and sound yesterday and look great. Quick test fit this morning before work and with very slight fettling they should work perfectly. Really appreciate you helping me out there Nick!!! Pics of the build so far to follow. I have had to do a fair bit of fettling and quite a bit of scratch-building, modifying spare parts etc as i go but really enjoying the challenge. Ian Edited August 31, 2022 by ianLMS 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted August 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) Progress so far. New buffers loosely fitted until heads arrive in case i need to drill them out. Excellent fit and thank you once again Nick! Double chimney is made from a resin mould kit after fabricating a template from a white metal non-streamlined duchess one from Wizard and some plasticard as no-one sells one for a streamlined model and i didnt want to carve up the Hornby body. Body sits on a Hornby DCC ready chassis with a Comet trailing truck. Just waiting for the correct front bogie to arrive from Wizard. Main mistake so far but one i can live with is the height of the cab floor compared to the tender. Its about 3mm too high but its due to the fixing height where it mounts on the chassis. Lots of fettling on the tender and made a bulkhead from an old etch i had. Now casting resin parts for the brake and water scoop columns. Still loads to do and lots more fun to be had. As with all my models i build, i do the best i can. I am no pro and certainly not in the same league as many on here but i am having fun, learning every time i build something and am happy with what i achieve. Edited August 31, 2022 by ianLMS 14 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Amazing - were the tricky bits pre-formed? I can't imagine trying to shape something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted September 1, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) Luckily, most of the body parts were pre-cut and formed and it was just a matter of soldering the bits together. The main body would have been impossible for me to shape. The skirts are in 2 pieces and have the cab sides included. The windows and buffer holes were pre cut. The cab roof was missing to had to make that from sheet brass. The tender sides were preformed but the front and back vertical plates needed trimming. I had to make the front bulk head from an old etch and cut out the water filler access hatches as well as the rear strengthening plates. I mounted the tender body on a Comet tender chassis and frame which made the job a lot easier. All fittings had to be drilled and positioned but i have the LMS Locomotive Profiles book for the Duchesses so that helped a lot with measurements and placing etc. I am now forming the streamlining skirts for the tender from sheet brass and have a few detailing bits made from resin currently setting in their moulds. Edited September 1, 2022 by ianLMS 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted September 5, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2022 Almost there. Pick ups to add on tender and the connection to the loco and it should all be ready for a scrub and a coat of primer. Ian 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted September 12, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2022 Body etch primed and riveted ready for a coat of red primer before the final coat of LMS Crimson Lake is applied and Fox transfers. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted September 26, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2022 Its taken a little while but i have now painted, lined and numbered the Duchess. Windows added using microscope slide cover (fixed with Deluxe glue n glaze....excess to be cleaned off). All thats left now is coal and crew and she can stretch her levs on the layout!! Gloss varnish was Alclad II Aqua Gloss. Transfers didnt quite go on level both sides but i am ok with it. Overall, although there are a few issues with the model, i am happy with how it turned out. Ian 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
92220 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 You’ve made a really lovely job of that by the looks of it, and from not the easiest of beginnings I guess. LNER4479 and I were wondering the other day about backdating Camden Shed for a running weekend sometime (well into the future when it’s closer to being finished!). Seeing 6243 looking like that makes it a more attractive idea still. Iain 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ianLMS Posted November 14, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2022 I believe the Crimson livery was very short lived as it was built at the start of the war and was soon re-painted in wartime black. I much prefer the Crimson!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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