Private owner wagon at Bude Wharf

[MarcD]

While doing sone research into a possable micro layout I cam across a very fuzzy image of a Private owner wagon at Bude Wharf

 

From what I can just make out the wagon belongs to ** Brothers who look like they are based at what apperars to be Marsh Mills which is near Plymouth.  I can't find any referance to a business based at marsh mills apart from Martyn Bros who were big players in the china clay industry.

What are other peoples thoughts?

 

Marc

[LBRJ]

Google tells me that Hoare Brothers of Marsh Mills operated a roadstone and ballast quarry on the Launceston branch and a tarmacadam works at Marsh Mills.

[Nick Holliday]

Volume 11 of Keith Turton’s PO books has an entry for Hoare Brothers of Tavistock.

[Nick Holliday]

Just checked Turton, and Hoare Brothers opened their roadstone works at Marsh Mills in 1932.  They had quite a large fleet of specialist steel wagons for handling the roadstone, and a handful of second hand coal wagons to supply their works at Marsh Mills and Tavistock.

[pb_devon]

Dapol used to do a Hoare Bros wagon for Antics

https://www.hattons.co.uk/305668/dapol_ant031_3_plank_open_wagon_hoare_bros_antics_special_edition/stockdetail

Maybe s/h somewhere.

 

[KeithMacdonald]

Is it like this one?

https://hmrs.org.uk/ach334-hoare-brothers-tavistock-20t-steel-open-sx2-no-20-op-1927-f3r-rivetted-const-empty-to-pitts-cl.html

[MarcD]

That is the company but the wagon was a shorter and had wooden body.

Marc

[Compound2632]

Just showing off my Christmas present of Turton's Eleventh! The entry on Hoare Brothers is illustrated with the photo of No. 20:

 

 

[HMRS ACH334]

 

and a similar wagon No. 58. 

 

The company also had three second-hand ten-ton wagons from Gloucester; it is presumably one of these we see in the photo, or a similar wagon hired from another wagon firm. It appears to be No. 70. Turton only has information about Gloucester-supplied wagons but it is evident from the numbering that there must have been wagons from other firms. I note that the Antics wagon is numbered 60; I suspect this is a number from the same Gloucester batch as No. 58, but is the livery taken from another photo? Mainline did a hopper wagon numbered 101, representing one of six 20 ton hoppers built by Gloucester in 1927 and also illustrated by Turton.