bluestag Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) Hey guys, A report from Burbank: I am in negotiation with a Brit who has a Modeller's World LNWR Jumbo 2-4-0 kit to sell. I need one for my collection. I'm not sure he has the instructions. Anyone have a set to scan? And he has no wheels. Slaters, oddly, does not list this wheel: 6' 9" pin on spoke, 12" throw, 20 spoke. They have a Great Central wheel at 6' 9", 20 spokes, but the pin between the spokes and at 13" throw. I suppose if I must compromise, I must. Pity the Mercian web site is gone, or I'd see what they used on their display model. And I'd ask them for a set of instructions. Is there another maker of wheels who might have it? Kevin Edited September 2, 2023 by bluestag More info Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 Looks like Walsall has a cast iron driver that is very close. Spokes, pin, diameter all correct. Throw slightly long. Just need to suck up and pay the piper, I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 And now it looks like Slaters has nearly the right wheel. Their wheel for the GC Director's class is in fact a pin on spoke, not between spokes. Meaning that it is only really wrong in the throw is 13 inch rather than 12. Anybody got those instructions? Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 Finally I have taken possession of the LNWR Precedent (Jumbo). The kit looks pretty complete. Enough that I ordered the wheels today. I STILL need instructions. If you have a set for the Modeller's World or Mercian kit that you could zap across the ether to me, I'd be oh so appreciative. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 STILL need the instructions. A chap on another board thought he had a set, as he has the kit as well, but he does not. Now that is two of us needing instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 Got a set of instructions from a chap on Gauge O Guild site. Thanks to everybody. Did not know better: the kit was intended to be built with undersized wheels (6' 6" rather than the 6' 9" wheels I bought. I will admit that the clearances of the foot plate vs flanges is almost non existent. Don't know if the splashers will fit the scale wheels or not. Just got to forge ahead. I'm surprised to say that I learned little from the instructions, meaning that it is an indifferent kit. But I need a Precedent! It seems that it is a feature, not a bug, of the kits for the Cauliflower and the Precedent that the frames be WAY wide. I fitted the top hat bearings from the outside. The instructions have them going in from the inside. How I'm supposed to fit plunger pickups is a mystery. But never mind. There are not provisions in the kit for plungers. I built it with 26.35mm spacers, and it all seems well. As long as there are springs on the front axle, it seems to hold the road. Still waiting for coupling rods from Premier. So it runs as a single wheeler for now. And I'm going to put in a smaller motor to allow more lead in the firebox. Hopefully the loco will weigh more than 1.5 lbs, without burning out the new 1525. News as it comes in. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Sometimes older kits are little more than an aid to the scratchbuilder. You might want to get yourself a copy of Locomotive Modelling by the late Geoff Holt: https://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/books/ISBN/1908763019.php https://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/books/ISBN/1908763051.php You might need to shop around. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, brossard said: Sometimes older kits are little more than an aid to the scratchbuilder. Yes. I have a sinking feeling about the boiler, which has the bands etched proud. They look a bit narrow to me compared to Fox transfers. Tomorrow I'll cut a bit of transfer out and apply it to the etching. I would not be surprised to see that making a new boiler is advisable. The only holes in the boiler are for the chimney etc. None of the smaller fittings are provided for. Oh well, it is no Finney kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 Making headway. The tender is on loan from my A Class. May not be able to do much over the next week as I need my chum's rolling bars for the boiler. Not seeing him until the Sunday after next. This sure is a simplistic kit, but it is the only one for a Precedent, so I just have to do what I can. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 Now the blasted thing is derailing regularly on the inside curve of a Peco turnout, coming in from the toe end. The leading wheel gets half way along the check rail, and climbs up over it. There is no play on the drivers at all. The front end skews hard over, too far because there will be a set of spats hiding the sandboxes, which the wheels will foul. I have the front axle having movement upward, such that it does not lift the drivers off the track. Possibly too much, reducing the amount of down force from the Slaters springs. I MAY have to strip down the chassis and install narrower frame spaces, and allow the rear axle some side movement. Drat! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 While waiting for bits for the loco, I have nearly finished the tender. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 STILL waiting for the motor and coupling rods. The motor people had covid, so I am ok with that. I cannot explain the coupling rods, which supposedly were posted more than two weeks ago. Anyway, rolled the boiler, trimmed the cab to accept it, applied the smokebox front and the riveted wrapper. The formers for the boiler, the discs provided, were grossly undersized. I fired up the lathe and produced a front former with a hole that just fits the spigot on the smokebox door, another that has a very large hole in it, making it little more than a ring, set in the boiler about at the second boiler band. And a third with a bolt in the middle, pushing thru a hole drilled in the spectacle plate, secured by a nut. I am going to hold off securing the boiler until the last possible minute. Get everything else worked out that can be done. The chimney and dome are just set in place. They won't go on until the boiler is soldered irrevocably in place. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 Coupling rods got here. I've installed them and trimmed the coupling pins. There is a problem with a transitory short. The tender goes live to one rail while the loco to the other rail. And only briefly, the loco stops, the short clears, and the loco starts again. Gotta figure this one out. Waiting for a new, smaller motor, and assuming it can haul my train without burning out, I'll take it to my chum John's to have it programmed. Pity RM does not allow videos.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coal Tank Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Looking good Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted November 18, 2023 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Coal Tank said: Looking good Kevin Thanks, Enjoying it. And as a LNWR man, I know you know the importance of having a Precedent in the collection. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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