Fishplate42 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Does anyone know if there is a model of the Rye and Camber Tramway out there? It is such an obvious prototype I will be surprised if it has not been built before... Ralph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Yes, Laurey Cooksey, who wrote a sizeable book on the R+C built one in, I think, 7mm scale. Nonneminstre Models made etched kits for one of the locos and the two bogie coaches in 4mm, desighned for either 9mm or the prototypical 12mm gauge. (The R+C was 3' gauge). However these have been unavailable for many years and are unlikely to be produced again. I've got the Rother Ironworks coach awaiting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
invercloy Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I think Laurie Cooksey's one is the one that's now on show at the Kent & East Sussex Railway's museum at Tenterden, but that one is 4mm scale. That seems to fit with my recollection of a layout appearing in the 009 News some time ago too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate42 Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 Thanks for the information. I managed to get hold of the Cooksey book and some other material which got me interested. The Rye and Camber would make a nice simple project in 7mm - everything built from scratch with track at 21mm gauge. Does anybody sell 21mm track gauges - or do I have to make those as well? I looked on the 7mm narrow gauge site but couldn't find anything. Ralph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggy1165 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I'm fairly confident you can get 21mm track gauges from the P4 Society. (Irish standard gauge in 4mm). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate42 Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 I'm fairly confident you can get 21mm track gauges from the P4 Society. (Irish standard gauge in 4mm). ...And so you can! Thank you, why didn't I think of that? That is what forums are all about... Ralph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 There was a model of the Rye & Camber in a very, very old RM (I think), I think it was built in OO on TT track - I had a copy of the page, but iI suspect it is long gone. I do know it was L-shaped and about 10' x 4'. Sorry I can't help further Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph R Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 You need to be aware that the P4 5'3" gauge (3ft in 7mm) is actually designed to hold 4mm bullhead rail. They will require to be modified if you are going to use 7mm flat bottom rail - I know because I bought 2! (and I haven't modified mine yet). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Inspired by R&C http://www.carendt.u...e49a/index.html and http://www.carendt.us/microplans/pages/real/industrial/index.html#3 Look for Golf Links Halt 1944. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Spoke to Chris Ellis - he thinks it was modelled as standard Gauge, and the article was in MRC about 1956 - - he thinks that he may have it and, If so, I'll send you a copy. May take a while to find though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate42 Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 Spoke to Chris Ellis - he thinks it was modelled as standard Gauge, and the article was in MRC about 1956 - - he thinks that he may have it and, If so, I'll send you a copy. May take a while to find though Thanks, That would be interesting... incidentally, I worked with Chris, for a few years, on a few magazines back in the '70s and 80s...and was involved with the launch of Model Trains in Jan. 1980. Ralph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Between us Chris and I have come up with - not the article as such, but a copy of the trackplan and an alternative that appeared in MTI-54. The original was in MRC February 1959. Let me have an email address and I'll send you a scan, with Chris' blessing! The memory is still (more or less) working - it was 10' x 4'6" - the original used an Essar 0-6-0 tank and a Hamblings Gnat Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate42 Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 Between us Chris and I have come up with - not the article as such, but a copy of the trackplan and an alternative that appeared in MTI-54. The original was in MRC February 1959. Let me have an email address and I'll send you a scan, with Chris' blessing! The memory is still (more or less) working - it was 10' x 4'6" - the original used an Essar 0-6-0 tank and a Hamblings Gnat Jack Thanks! - PM sent. Ralph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirty2a Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 There was an article in the Modeller, read it recently. will try to find it. I agree about it being a good simple project, have thought about it myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Maurice Deane built a model and it appeared in the Railway Modellerin the mid to late 1950's. It was a continuous run with the Rye terminus in the middle. The scale was 5.5mm and the gauge 16.5mm. I've got a copy in the black hole loft somewhere, when I find it I'll edit the post to include the date! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate42 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 Maurice Deane built a model and it appeared in the Railway Modellerin the mid to late 1950's. It was a continuous run with the Rye terminus in the middle. The scale was 5.5mm and the gauge 16.5mm. I've got a copy in the black hole loft somewhere, when I find it I'll edit the post to include the date! Thanks Keith I have a found copy - It is February 1955 - It's older than me - Just! Ralph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I think Laurie Cooksey's one is the one that's now on show at the Kent & East Sussex Railway's museum at Tenterden, but that one is 4mm scale. That seems to fit with my recollection of a layout appearing in the 009 News some time ago too. This was featured in the January 1998 Railway Modeller and is a static model. A single page article which I cut out (and ripped it...) whilst sorting out and throwing away a pile of magazines yesterday. A pm and its yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate42 Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 This was featured in the January 1998 Railway Modeller and is a static model. A single page article which I cut out (and ripped it...) whilst sorting out and throwing away a pile of magazines yesterday. A pm and its yours. Thanks - PM sent. Ralph;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 You may find it useful to know that Slater's produce wheelsets in 7mm scale for 21mm gauge, although no-one seems to produce any components or jigs specifically for 21mm gauge trackwork. See: https://slatersplast...heels/7mmNG.php Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 A major problem with modelling the Rye & Camber in any scale up to and including 1/32 (or Gauge 1) is that the prototypes were miniscule - they would not have looked large on 18inch gauge - and it is difficult to make scale models that work, particularly of the two steam locos. Even finding wheels that are approximately correct is almost impossible - and the Bagnall bogies under the two carriages are very spindly although they could be fabricated from fine brass sections. The rail section was very small too, to look right you would need to use code 55 FB rail even in 7mm scale - not quite as difficult to handle as the code 40 that Peter Kazer used on Sand Hutton in 1:48, but still not easy with a 21mm track gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Between us Chris and I have come up with - not the article as such, but a copy of the trackplan and an alternative that appeared in MTI-54. The original was in MRC February 1959. Let me have an email address and I'll send you a scan, with Chris' blessing! The memory is still (more or less) working - it was 10' x 4'6" - the original used an Essar 0-6-0 tank and a Hamblings Gnat Jack I have a feeling that this layout was not an accurate portrayal of the original but just used the names. It was an end-to-end with simple stations but probably quite entertaining to operate if done 'properly'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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