RMweb Premium Welly Posted December 18, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2010 Just up on YouTube, a DB TX Logistik driver have filmed a montage of his duties through rain, fog, snow and ice. Watch the sparking from the icy OHL near the end of the clip!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NGT6 1315 Posted December 18, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2010 Liking this, thanks for posting! Far as I can see, the locos he was driving were a 185, ES 64 U2 and ES 64 F4, which are all used by TX Logistik where he's employed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 18, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2010 With that amount of arcing it makes you wonder how much it affects the traction current availability. It is all lost energy due to an imperfect contact. I would imagine it also causes excess wear on the contact surface. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Peter Beckett Posted December 19, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2010 I really enjoyed watching it. Also I was able, when station announcements were made, to plot the journeys on giggle maps. The arcing was great to watch and very obvious to me (ex high voltage engineer) that it was AC and not DC. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted December 19, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2010 ^^^ Peter - how do I tell the difference between an AC arc and a DC arc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Peter Beckett Posted December 19, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2010 Colour. DC is generally green and AC blue Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Wow, amazing. Windscreen wipers that work Couldn't take this from a 66. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted December 19, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2010 Here is a good example of DC arcing: I could just see that the arc is greeny blue. With AC current flows both ways so there is no ionisation of the conductor material in contact with the arc and so no colour whereas with DC current is flowing one way and there are ions flowing one way through the arc which takes on the colour that is characteristic of the conductor material ( green for copper ) - is this the reason why AC and DC arcing have different colours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NGT6 1315 Posted December 20, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2010 The videos are (obviously) mainly German, but other countries feature too. Norway, Thailand, Greece, France, Australia, to name a few. I know the videos can be purchased somewhere, the ARD has some sort of agreement with the publisher IIRC, but I can't recall which one. I'm sure Dominik (1216 025) can Not completely sure as I do not have any railway-themed retail DVDs myself, but I seem to remember the publisher is Geramond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorcycle Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 The same youtube user has posted a video in the last few days of a journey from Duisburg to Cologne and lasts for 33 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m davies Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'm amazed the pan head can take that amount of punishment in the first video, I've seen one of our container crane DC motors spark like that and the comm was ruined, mind a pan head on 15Kv is probably only drawing 50 Amps max, ours was drawing nearly 1600 Amps. Amazing videos none the less, the latest must be light locos because they certainly appear to pick up speed very very quickly. Best Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesome_whistle Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I would imagine it also causes excess wear on the contact surface. Keith It certainly does, and when the carbon gets removed from the pantograph the auto drop device (ADD) will drop the pan. It happened several times during the bad weather at the back end of last year with class 90s on the Anglo-Scottish sleepers. No 25kv means no traction power and no ETH so there were a few chilly nights experienced. Some European systems use different pantographs in winter to alleviate the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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