ajdown Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I've found information that this loco was renamed/repained in 1984 into the green livery, but I can't find anywhere if it ever lost this livery before withdrawal in 1993 before entering preservation. Does anyone have any suitable information? I'm wondering whether I can justify the purchase of another 50 as it's a different colour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 You should wait for a reply from a Western Region expert really (which I most definitely am not), but in the absence of any replies so far, I'l stick my neck on the line and say I don't think it received another livery before withdrawal from BR service. Of course I may be mistaken..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdp Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 This loco kept its green livery in BR service from the time it was first painted in green until it was withdrawn. I used to see it very often when I was waiting for a train at Waterloo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajdown Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 Excellent, thanks for that, it seems like I can get away with obtaining one and just needing a bit of weathering, assuming it wasn't kept super-shiny. Now all I need to do is finish building the layout... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50033 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 The only thing I would add is that in BR days she had the black name and number plates. It wasn't until preservation that the red ones appeared. For some reason it is in preserved condition with red name and number plates that Hornby have decided to model her. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted November 10, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2009 The only thing I would add is that in BR days she had the black name and number plates. It wasn't until preservation that the red ones appeared. For some reason it is in preserved condition with red name and number plates that Hornby have decided to model her. Mark Er. :blink: just and been to check the model that I purchased from Alley Pally this year and it has black name plates and is lightly weathed. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50033 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Sorry didn't realise the weathered edition had the black plates. Mine has red but it doesn't matter as I'll be getting some etched plates for her. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdp Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 The standard unweathered model had red backed plates while the weathered edition with black plates was made for the Hornby Collector's club but later remaining stocks were sold off through retailers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 When originally painted in 1984 50007 had green cab roofs and only the hatch sections on the roof were black (the green slightly wrapping around the roof from the sides). This was changed to an all black roof above cant-rail level with the orange stripe when she was repainted to work the Royal Train in about April/May 1987. She was always used just like any other class 50 and I have a photo of her at Newton Abbot in May 1987 in quite shiny green but with china clay splatters across the bodyside. Reports have said that she was painted a slightly lighter green when reinstated in March 1992 for railtour duties, I'd have to compare my slides to confirm that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Quite right everyone After Sir Eddie was painted green for the GW 150 celebrations, it has never been in another color. The nameplates were painted red for Old Oak common open day some time ago, and were only red for a short time. We think Hornby used a photo taken at this event to replicate the livery. Just for info, the snow ploughs were added, in i think 1997 and the other visible mod done in preservationis the cover over the battery switch. Just one other thing,be carfull which end the LA's are. Gary Engineer Class forty appeal Owners of, D212 Aureol,50007 Sir Edward Elgar, 37314 Dalzell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I've found information that this loco was renamed/repained in 1984 into the green livery, but I can't find anywhere if it ever lost this livery before withdrawal in 1993 before entering preservation. Does anyone have any suitable information? I'm wondering whether I can justify the purchase of another 50 as it's a different colour Hi, Yes it was painted a slightly lighter green for railtour duties but worst of all they nicked the power unit and bogies off 50046 which was a very popular loco at that time Cheers CC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajdown Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Interesting. "Ajax" was another pet loco of mine, as it was the last one I needed to 'cop' for the whole class. I was two fields away from the line at the time and it was only because of the 'large logo' livery I managed to get the number! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Interesting. "Ajax" was another pet loco of mine, as it was the last one I needed to 'cop' for the whole class. I was two fields away from the line at the time and it was only because of the 'large logo' livery I managed to get the number! I always liked that livery on the fifties and Ajax being the last of the 'logs'and with a low hours power unit saw it often on the Wat -Exe route in early nineties although I also liked both 029 and 030 which both almost made it till the end CC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I think there is more of Ajax left then 007. Are the green paint. I belive the 1984 color was GW green, but i have herd that the color at the last laira repaint was Ford transit van green, the other "green" that 7 may have been painted in, is Layland British racing green. The last repaint in 2007 used GW green paint from Williamsons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted November 13, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2009 A class 50 in British Racing Green. I like it. :P Terry :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 When originally painted in 1984 50007 had green cab roofs and only the hatch sections on the roof were black (the green slightly wrapping around the roof from the sides). This was changed to an all black roof above cant-rail level with the orange stripe when she was repainted to work the Royal Train in about April/May 1987. She was always used just like any other class 50 and I have a photo of her at Newton Abbot in May 1987 in quite shiny green but with china clay splatters across the bodyside. Reports have said that she was painted a slightly lighter green when reinstated in March 1992 for railtour duties, I'd have to compare my slides to confirm that. Are you sure that the livery was changed to an all black roof? I've looked at photos from 1987, and the cab roofs are green, with the roof panels in black, the same as it was from the first repaint. A slightly lighter shade of green was used for the 1992 repaint, but it wasn't vastly different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Are you sure that the livery was changed to an all black roof? I've looked at photos from 1987, and the cab roofs are green, with the roof panels in black, the same as it was from the first repaint.A slightly lighter shade of green was used for the 1992 repaint, but it wasn't vastly different. I was going by the comment in the Class 50 Factfile by Kevin Saunders and David N Clough but having looked again I think you may be correct.My photo of 50007 at Newton Abbot on 16 May 1987 has it after the 1987 repaint with an orange stripe but the green does wrap over the roof edges and on the headcode boxes as you state. The next photo is from 50s West by Roger Siviter on page 42. This shows a very dirty roof but still appears to indicate traces of green on the headcode boxes. My last photo of 50007 before she was first withdrawn was at Waterloo on 3 May 1991. The roof is so dirty you can't tell what colour it is. Personally I don't think 50007 had a repaint between April/May 1987 and withdrawal on 10 July 1991.I echo the thoughts regarding 50046. Ajax was always a good machine for me and I have a excellent photo of her leaving Liskeard on 16 May 1987 still immaculate after her repaint. I was fed up with 50007 by 1991 and was glad to see her withdrawn so the likes of 50029, 50030, 50033 and 50046 could survive longer (D400 was always going to last until the end it seemed to me). I was gutted when I heard 50007 was reinstated and positively annoyed when I heard that 50046 had been sacrificed even though there was nothing wrong with her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I think you're right, AFAIK 007 wasn't repainted between 1987 and 1991 only after re-instatement, in 1992. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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