danker than clanker Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Ok, I'm a new member and I'm writing in impact because I'm so EXTREEEEEEME! Well I've never been much of a railway modeler, Mostly my layout was a 7 x 4 board on legs. But I want to make an exhibition layout, Linear design and incorporating a working dock. (Various kinds of boats that come in and out with cargo. I also wish to fit a working crane) It is a 00 layout, but I want 009 stuff in it too. I have an idea for a small station where I can run narrow gauge trains, Maybe make dual running track too. I want suggestions for locos of the narrow persuasion to use in my layout. RTR locos would be very much welcome, Though i don't mind kits. Ok, Thanks in advanced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I'm so EXTREEEEEEME! Do extreme people do extreme modelling, kinda along the same lines as extreme ironing? I've always wondered what it'd be like to build a wagon kit hanging off the side of a cliff. Pix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamouti Ben Yafo Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I was once accused of being an extreme sportsman, just because I fenced with live blades*. Honestly, what have people come to? I mean, no-one ever accused me of being an extreme modeller just because I like a nice, sharp scalpel (actually, four). *Yes. BTW, Pixie - those lines in your post; is that from a song I once heard? If so, who is it and what album? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 BTW, Pixie - those lines in your post; is that from a song I once heard? If so, who is it and what album? Originally Tom Waits although it also features of Muse's Hullabaloo DVD. Both are very cool, although the latter does slightly clinch it. B) Sorry for dragging this thread so horrifically off topic so early on... welcome aboard DtC. Pix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan-Leeds Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I wouldnt call 009 Extreme more Normal and more interesting/prototypical than the Already narrow gauge 00! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Trying desperately to bring things back on topic I want suggestions for locos of the narrow persuasion to use in my layout. RTR locos would be very much welcome, Though i don't mind kits. The choice for RTR 009 locos is pretty grim - and mainly limited to some HOe offerings (Bemo, etc) which look very European and a bit toy like. The more usual approach is to build your own. There are quite an array of very simple kits in whitemetal and in brass that are easy to build and a pleasure. They really give you the sense that you are modelling and not simply buying off the shelf and plonking. Kits range from Peco Great Little Trains (eg Dennis) Mercian Models Parkside Dundas for a very wide range of coach and wagon kits. RT Models Nigel Lawton A1 Models (and others) I have illustrated a couple of simple builds OK WB A Billard T75D and A Hunslet among others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danker than clanker Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Do extreme people do extreme modelling, kinda along the same lines as extreme ironing? I've always wondered what it'd be like to build a wagon kit hanging off the side of a cliff. Pix Hell yeah, You can get more EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME than rock climbing Musclewick in Pembrokeshire, While building an O gauge Ruston!........ WHILE BEING SMASHED IN THE FACE BY WAVES AND WINDS THAT SEND COWS FLYING FOR 8 F****** MILES In other news: "The choice for RTR 009 locos is pretty grim - and mainly limited to some HOe offerings (Bemo, etc) which look very European and a bit toy like. The more usual approach is to build your own. There are quite an array of very simple kits in whitemetal and in brass that are easy to build and a pleasure. They really give you the sense that you are modelling and not simply buying off the shelf and plonking. Kits range from Peco Great Little Trains (eg Dennis) Mercian Models Parkside Dundas for a very wide range of coach and wagon kits. RT Models Nigel Lawton A1 Models (and others) I have illustrated a couple of simple builds OK WB A Billard T75D and A Hunslet among others. " I know RTR engines are really rare, I wouldn't mind doing kits. These are a great help, Hunslets are the sort of thing I'd like in the dock. But I'd like steam too. (If there are any puritans out there who don't like mixed eras; My layout, My rules) Also, How hard are dual gauges to work with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 How hard are dual gauges to work with? Tillig produce dual gaue track, both plain and various types of crossings and points as shown here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danker than clanker Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Tillig produce dual gaue track, both plain and various types of crossings and points as shown here Consider yourself my new best friend. Cheers. I'll upload the results when it's at a point that it'll be of interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLD Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I want suggestions for locos of the narrow persuasion to use in my layout. RTR locos would be very much welcome, Though i don't mind kits. Your only current source for ready-to-run British outline 009 is Paul Windle's hand built range. Not sure what is currently available (depends on availability of the chassis used) but I can check with him if you want... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danker than clanker Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Your only current source for ready-to-run British outline 009 is Paul Windle's hand built range. Not sure what is currently available (depends on availability of the chassis used) but I can check with him if you want... Yes please, How much does his stuff cost? Cheers, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcampbell Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Around £100 for one of Paul Windle's standard models, including chassis. Availability does depend on what chassis are available as PLD said, and he usually has a waiting list of several months! They are very nice models though. Hunslets made hundreds of locos, mostly steam, so not sure which you mean. The Hunslet "Quarry/Port" class was a small 0-4-0ST that is very popular, there were dozens used in the North Wales slate quarries. Their small sixe makes them difficult to model in 009, there is a kit from Chivers Finelines, and one planned (with prototypical outside-framed chassis) from N-Drive. Parkside Dundas are a good source of 009, as well as their own kits they stock most of the readily available 009 kits from other manufacturers. Also consider joining the 009 Society, members have access to the extensive second-hand sales service (the stand is at some society and specialist shows, or by mail order) which always has a stock of loco's that others have already built! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
invercloy Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Consider yourself my new best friend. Cheers. I'll upload the results when it's at a point that it'll be of interest. I strongly advise you not to use the Tilling points though, i've used them on my 009 layout and i think a chocolate teapot would actually be more useful for moving stock from one line to another. Stick to peco. Re. kits, i'd suggest that one of the Peco range might be best to start you off, or converting a Roco HOe loco to a more english appearance, I did this to one of the Roco feldbahn tender locos: Plenty more info on NG modelling on NGRM - well worth joining if you're getting into narrow gauge modelling, as is the 009 society that Michael has already recommended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinwestwales Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hmmm-Building an O gauge Ruston whilst Rockclimbing at Musselwick eh...beats the heck out of painting an Airfix 16t mineral whilst kayaking through the Bitches (as my dear lady wife is given to doing ) ATB Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Kent Biker Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Trying desperately to bring things back on topic The choice for RTR 009 locos is pretty grim - and mainly limited to some HOe offerings (Bemo, etc) which look very European and a bit toy like. The more usual approach is to build your own. There are quite an array of very simple kits in whitemetal and in brass that are easy to build and a pleasure. They really give you the sense that you are modelling and not simply buying off the shelf and plonking. Kits range from Peco Great Little Trains (eg Dennis) Mercian Models Parkside Dundas for a very wide range of coach and wagon kits. RT Models Nigel Lawton A1 Models (and others) EDM Models have just introduced a range of Minitrains products. Based on the 1960s originals, these are basically a US-outline Plymouth Diesel and a Porter Steamer (both using the same 0-4-0 chassis) each in 4-5 different liveries, and with a range of freight wagons, in HOe - which is close to 009. The chassis of these are said to be much improved over the originals (they should be after 40+ years!), so may well prove useful for kits/scratch building... See EDM Models website. Regards, Martyn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 The chassis of these are said to be much improved over the originals (they should be after 40+ years!), so may well prove useful for kits/scratch building... See EDM Models website. That makes for an expensive chassis when purchased just to throw away the body. (OK, almost as bad as my purchase of the Kato tram!!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Major Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Kato do a fourwheeled tram chassis as a spare part. The motor on this is quite low slung so scratch building a freelance diesel body on it is a simple task. I got mine from a dealer at the Telford narrow gauge show (held each July) and it was not particularly expensive, they are available on the net as well.. . http://www.kato-unit...nit-1967-0.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Kato do a fourwheeled tram chassis as a spare part. Yes am fully aware of the variety of Kato tram chassis and some indeed are very cheap and to be considered - but the one I was referring to was this one Still, as far as I know, not available on its own, but only by destroying a brand new tram. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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