michaelp Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Hi all, I thought that I would spend my Sunday renumbering my Bachmann BR Blue Class 37s, so after researching which prototype numbers I needed I set to work removing the old numbers with a cocktail stick and some nail varnish remover, incidentally, it took quite a while to do one loco, but I had a shortcut, or so I thought. What I had planned to do was to leave the factory applied '37' numbers in place and just remove the 3 digit number I was going to replace, up to now everything went okay until I came to apply the new 3 digit number, the Fox Transfers are smaller than the factory applied transfers and look wrong next to the original '37' number so this means that the entire cabside numbers will have to be removed then re-applied using the Fox transfer set. Instead of checking first, I assumed that the 4mm Fox transfers would be the same size as the originals but they aren't. I thought I would post this incase others have the same idea as I had.........it won't work! Regards Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Yep, been there, done that as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D400 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I would thoroughly recommend Replica Railways' new rub transfers for renumbering jobs - closer match to Bachmann and Hornby and a lot easier to position and get level. Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Fox do state on their literature ( I believe it was included in the latest blurb sent out with orders?) that they make their transfers accurate tl prototype size whereas you cannot rely on the RTR guys to do that. So always best to replace the whole number rather than part of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelp Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share Posted January 30, 2011 Yes I removed the whole number and have to say that Fox transfers look better than the original Bachmann numbers, I think the Bachmann numbers are slightly oversized. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Just for general information the Fox large logo numbers are too large for some of the Scottish 47s and the large logo 37s. Use Fox cab side numbers for Gauge 1 locos. 4.9mm in height compared to normal large logo numbers at 5.5mm. They look so much better. Photo of 37033 using the Gauge 1 numbers: Comparison between the two types on 47s: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelp Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 Thank you for the additional info. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_daddy_ray Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 sorry flood but could you clarify what size numbers you've used on the 47's on which ones and what gauge the 47's are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 sorry flood but could you clarify what size numbers you've used on the 47's on which ones and what gauge the 47's are Both the Class 47s are OO gauge Heljan models. 47641 uses Gauge 1 cab side numbers by Fox (ref. F10310), these are 4.9mm high 47650 uses normal Fox large logo numbers (ref. 4315), these are 5.5mm high Just for interest there is a photo of the real 47641 here and a photo of the real 47650 here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_daddy_ray Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Hi Flood just checked out your two photo of the real loco's and definitely going to go with the gauge 1 numbers they look a lot better size, Thank you for clarifying for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Don't use the gauge 1 numbers for all of your large numbered locos though as the prototypes have different sizes as Floods pictures show. 641 clearly has smaller numbers than 650 in real life as well as on floods locos! Cav Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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