brian daniels Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 That's right Dave, I and 2 reception then 1-7 in the South and 1-6 in the north, then at the far north it's the Loop where stock is usually stabled and I can't recall ever calling the 2 extentions of the reception roads anything but they must have a name! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
new puritan Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 That's right Dave, I and 2 reception then 1-7 in the South and 1-6 in the north, then at the far north it's the Loop where stock is usually stabled and I can't recall ever calling the 2 extentions of the reception roads anything but they must have a name! Certainly have ... No 1 reception neck [46 slu] and No 2 reception neck [40 slu] and after Tuckwells crossing they become the neck [26 slu]. Your No 7 road south was originally designated the 'C and W repair siding' hence the cripples that I hope you are photting for posterity Brian before they disappear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
new puritan Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 then at the far north it's the Loop where stock is usually stabled Whoops forgot this one ... That was designated the back road [62 slu] sir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Searle Posted March 21, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2011 Lots of great info here, thank you all for your contributions. A couple of further questions: 1. Would Class 59's be used on any of the trains supplying new ballast? With IOA or JNA wagons? 2. Are there any good photos of the building (office?) that is hiding behind the lattice fence? Many thanks for your continuing help. Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 1. Would Class 59's be used on any of the trains supplying new ballast? With IOA or JNA wagons? No, the VQ stone doesn't come from the Westbury area, it comes from the North at present. As an alternative, just looking up Oxford on Freightmaster and it says there is a "Q" from Westbury/Whatley to Oxford Banbury Rd, usual power is a 66 but that's the train that looks like your best bet for a logical class 59 substitution? 7A14 / 7C54 are the codes to search on - and: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=7C54+oxford&hl=en&safe=active&sa=2 suggests that all three varieties of 59 are fair game - you can do a real "dogs breakfast" mix of boxes on mendip traffic in the past year as well - Yeoman JYA, MRL JNA, VTG (ex Railtrack) green JNA and even the old Tiphook JRAs and a couple of types of ex scrap service box have been used recently! 59s aren't unknown working weekend engineers trains off Westbury, but i'd suspect that "location location location" is behind that and the same logic doesn't work for Hinksey! 2. Are there any good photos of the building (office?) that is hiding behind the lattice fence? Have you looked at Bing's birds eye view for that kind of thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Searle Posted March 21, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2011 Hi Martyn, 1. Would Class 59's be used on any of the trains supplying new ballast? With IOA or JNA wagons? No, the VQ stone doesn't come from the Westbury area, it comes from the North at present. As an alternative, just looking up Oxford on Freightmaster and it says there is a "Q" from Westbury/Whatley to Oxford Banbury Rd, usual power is a 66 but that's the train that looks like your best bet for a logical class 59 substitution? 7A14 / 7C54 are the codes to search on - and: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=7C54+oxford&hl=en&safe=active&sa=2 suggests that all three varieties of 59 are fair game - you can do a real "dogs breakfast" mix of boxes on mendip traffic in the past year as well - Yeoman JYA, MRL JNA, VTG (ex Railtrack) green JNA and even the old Tiphook JRAs and a couple of types of ex scrap service box have been used recently! 59s aren't unknown working weekend engineers trains off Westbury, but i'd suspect that "location location location" is behind that and the same logic doesn't work for Hinksey! OK, thanks for that - it looks like it would be a special case then rather than a typical working. 2. Are there any good photos of the building (office?) that is hiding behind the lattice fence? Have you looked at Bing's birds eye view for that kind of thing? I've not come across that before, just had a look and those are exactly the sort of views I need. It seems a lot better than the Google maps equivalent. Many thanks, Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I reckon you would be OK for a class 59 on the oxford aggregate. Brian's site had a picture of one there on that working before fotopic blew up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I reckon you would be OK for a class 59 on the oxford aggregate. That's the gist of what I was trying to say Rob Even if it's not the most common power it happens enough to appear in pictures, and with any of the flavours of 59 as well. That's the real shame about Fotopic being lost, it was fabulous at searching on a headcode to get a decent overview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 That's the gist of what I was trying to say Rob Even if it's not the most common power it happens enough to appear in pictures, and with any of the flavours of 59 as well. That's the real shame about Fotopic being lost, it was fabulous at searching on a headcode to get a decent overview. How about the 11.03.2011 Didcot - Ashchurch working? http://www.petertandy.co.uk/59201_6B36_M_Ash_110311.jpg Would this have worked via Oxford to Worcester,or would it have gone via Swindon in both directions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Didcot-Ashchurch always goes via Kemble. All 3 sorts of 59 would get on the Banbury Road stone. If you had mentioned the mess room last week I could have taken some pics of it but I won't be down there for a while now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Searle Posted March 21, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2011 Hi Brian, If you had mentioned the mess room last week I could have taken some pics of it but I won't be down there for a while now. Sorry However, we are not in a hurry - we won't be getting around to modelling it for a few months yet. Any photos you could take next time you're there would be most welcome. Thanks, Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Lately there have been a few 59 hauled engineers off Hinksey, both the Mendip and DB types. Maybe one 59 hauled with the balance 66 hauled on a weekend. They tend to run up light engine (often a convoy of several locos) from Westbury, normally 0Wxx. In addition to what Martyn's said in terms of the Appleford / Oxford Banbury Rd stones running from Whatley, from recent observations I'd say at present 59:66 ratio is somewhere around the 70:30 mark. 59s do seem to work it often enough, despite what is printed in the guide and the fact it's one of the shorter trains Mendip Rail run. Occasionally a 60 may turn up on it, too. I've included this photo as it shows a typical mix of wagons well, despite the rarer class 60 haulage 3x VTG JNA (VTG34xx/CAIB34xx) 5x Mendip JNA (NACO39xx/CAIB39xx/VTG39xx) 2x Yeoman JYA (OK32xx) 1x Mendip JNA (NACO39xx/CAIB39xx/VTG39xx) 4x Yeoman JYA (OK32xx) 1x Mendip JNA (NACO39xx/CAIB39xx/VTG39xx) 1x Yeoman JYA (OK32xx) 1x Mendip JNA (NACO39xx/CAIB39xx/VTG39xx) On this other occasion behind 59205 its only Mendip JNAs and Yeoman JYAs in tow HTH jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Searle Posted April 7, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2011 Hi Jo, Many thanks for this info and photos, I've just noticed that I hadn't replied, so apologies for not responding earlier. We just need a class 59 now... I wonder if we can stretch to a CJM one? Cheers, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Given the cost of those (although they are very nice!) i'm sorta surprised nobody has come out with a conversion kit from a 66? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Searle Posted April 8, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 8, 2011 Hi Martyn, Given the cost of those (although they are very nice!) i'm sorta surprised nobody has come out with a conversion kit from a 66? There appear to be some alternatives. BH Enterprises make a kit to go on a Farish (Poole) class 50 chassis. Worsley make a 2mm "Origami in brass" body only kit. Shapeways produce a 3D printed version which I believe ewsjo is building. So there are some other options. I'm tempted to try the Worsley one with a Farish or Dapol 66 chassis. Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted April 8, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2011 Jo has pretty much finished his Shapeways 59. Grahame carried out butchery on a Dapol 66 to make a 59/1. Given the number of liveries carried I am surprised Dapol haven't done one yet, though I suppose they may be put off by the detail variations. Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 BH Enterprises make a kit to go on a Farish (Poole) class 50 chassis. Worsley make a 2mm "Origami in brass" body only kit. Shapeways produce a 3D printed version which I believe ewsjo is building. So there are some other options. I'm tempted to try the Worsley one with a Farish or Dapol 66 chassis. Hi Dave, Some details about the 3D printed 59 here: http://www.rmweb.co....age__tag__59004 As Mike says, just about done Indeed on the product page on Shapeways Jack's used pics of mine. Still don't think he's finished his I've used BHE sideframes on mine - they don't quite line up with the wheels due to the comrpmise of being designed to go on a standard Farish chassis as you say. The body is also too short IIRC, part of the Farish 50 chassis legacy The Worsley etches are very nice - haven't seen one built up though. An RTR 59 would be very welcome here though Hope this helps, jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Searle Posted January 24, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2013 Hi, I was giving a talk to the club last night about Hinksey and a few questions came up: 1. Are the incoming ballast boxes and outgoing auto-ballasters all unloaded and loaded by the excavator? Does it take a long time? 2. Is the spindly pole and bar across the left hand track in the photo a loading gauge? 3. Where does the 08 get its fuel from? Many thanks, Cheers,Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 There has been no bulk ballast trains into Hinksey for a while. Probably start again when the Bicester road is doubled. The same digger unloads it and loads any wagons that need filling. It does not take too long to unload a train, about 3-4 hours. The little pole is a water spray but I have never know it working. A lorry fuels the 08, when we have one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Searle Posted January 24, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2013 Hi Brian, Many thanks for that information. The audience seemed to think that it would be a slow way of loading/unloading large quantities of ballast, but 3-4 hours seems reasonable. So the pole is a water spray - is there any form of loading gauge to limit the height of ballast loads - or are loads simply kept below the tops of the sides of the wagons? Many thanks to you and the other contributors to this topic. Thanks to you all, I was able to sound quite knowledgeable about the working of the yard and the club members who have not been very involved in the project now have a better understanding of what we are building. Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 No loading gauges these day's just load up to just under the top of the wagon side. There is a weighbridge just under the Lake Street footbridge that you are on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Searle Posted January 24, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2013 So is this the weighbridge then? In the rear-most ballast road just south of the footbridge? We were wondering what it was. Thanks again Brian. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Yes that was the earlier weighbridge. This had been changed with a different style that just looks like a fishplate attached to the rail sides that I guess measures the give in the rail? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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