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Coombe Barton

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Bought the Frogmore AA13 Toad kit at Warley ( http://www.dartcasti...uk/mjt/3941.htm ), and its crying out for interior detail which needs to be put in place prior to assembly. I've done my searches online and in any books I have, and am trying to find a prototype using this list http://www.uksteam.info/gwr/wagons.htm and contacting the sites where the relevant type is preserved. However so far a blank.

 

I do have a plan - in Jim Russell's GW Wagon Plans book (1976, Oxford) but need a little more to make it come to life.

 

So can anyone shed any light the interior cabin arrangements of this or similar types of van with any books or magazines? The design is close on a century old and the interior would almost bound to have been modified during that time, so any information would be helpful.

 

[Edit.] P.S. I think I said before on the previous forum that I like making things difficult for myself. I think I've started.

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There is a 7mm repro of a Toad AA13 engineering drawing (fig. 459) in the GWR Goods Wagon bible from Tourret Publishing (ISBN 0-905878-07-8).

 

Plate 649 of the same tome has a photo of the interior of a dia AA11.

 

Given the fact that GWRGW is out of print, then this link http://www.gauge0gui...wDetail.asp?211 might prove useful - it is a review on the G0G website of the Parkside 7mm AA19 Toad kit - reviewer went to the extent of adding interior cabin detail as well.

 

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"......... Given the fact that GWRGW is out of print, then this link http://www.gauge0gui...wDetail.asp?211 might prove useful ........ "

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That's a nicely detailed "Toad" - shame he spelled Landore wrong.

(Or was it 'bastardised' by the GWR ?)

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Brian R

 

I have just found that I have a copy of the combined edition of Tourret - by David and Charles. The same diagram appears in the Russell book. But the Tourret gives extra information, so thanks very much.

 

Interesting thing about Landore ( or Llandore ). Landore is the 'official' spelling, but even official bodies spell it with an initial double L - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/browser.asp?CATLN=3&CATID=1231&POSCATLN=6&POSCATID=781000&j=1 and http://www.dsa.gov.uk/AddressDetails_Bannered.asp?id=3082&Cat=0&Type=16&ShowRoute=0

 

Any reference I have to the GWR spelling makes it Landore.

 

And of course being in Wales, non natives think it should have a double L - I know I would have.

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Bought the Frogmore AA13 Toad kit at Warley ( http://www.dartcasti...uk/mjt/3941.htm ), and its crying out for interior detail which needs to be put in place prior to assembly.

I have one of these completed except for the castings (which I should get on and do) I was going to add the build to my OK_WB blog - perhaps I should now leave that to you :D

 

I really don't see the point of doing the interior it will be so dark in there and no one will able to see it. To me such things seem like a waste of time and effort ... but each to their own.

 

If you are going to build the toolboxes and stove from plasticard then I would have thought you need to leave it to the end. You can always attach the roof by spring wires - though I wouldn't recommend it in this case as the veranda back is (like all Toads) prone to snap off - especially when you have to force the rather chunky hand rails around it. I did consider adding some wires along the top of the roof line to strengthen it and then adding the sprung roof. But if you are into internal detail this would probably go against the whole idea - even if no one could tell without upending it.

 

Good luck with it - actually quite a reasonable kit but by no means perfection.

 

I have their AA3 to do.

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