mjkerr Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 My large setup is based around a Lenz Set 100 : LZV100 and LH100 Received my Lenz XPA some time ago Connected it to the LA152 interface, which already works with the existing LH100 handset The handset has address 01 Connected my DECT phone to the XPA Noticed on handset active, there is no tone (as listed in the manual) Followed the instructions, to set the address as 02 However, there is no tone There is no response from the system As an example sending : #7306* then 9 Swapping the LH100 to 7306 and this allows me to control this train Can the same address be loaded in both handsets, or does the 7306 need to be removed? The manual does not have any details for fault finding Any ideas? For those that own the XPA, what do you hear when you listen to the phone, simply with the handset active? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Hi, Sorry I cant be of help to you with your question, but being a similar lenz user, I would love to know more about this subject, who in the uk supplies the xpa unit, and how much are the units. Thanks..............Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I had one of those, it worked sometimes. I gave up in the end. Nowadays I use an Android phone with JMRI - that works very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 I had one of those, it worked sometimes. I gave up in the end. I can't even get a response from it 4 hours in and nothing However, I have had a busy tone a few times but I suspect that was the actual phone response, as I have two DECT phones and the other does not give a busy tone at any time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Have you rebooted the system? That would occasionally make it work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Have you rebooted the system? That would occasionally make it work. I have switched the LZV100 off and then back on several times There is no option to reboot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 I have now performed three RESETs to default Apart from the loss of Language and the stack, no difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I think I've deleted the instruction book, can you point me to one so I can refresh my memory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnysa Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 My large setup is based around a Lenz Set 100 : LZV100 and LH100 Received my Lenz XPA some time ago Connected it to the LA152 interface, which already works with the existing LH100 handset The handset has address 01 Connected my DECT phone to the XPA Noticed on handset active, there is no tone (as listed in the manual) Followed the instructions, to set the address as 02 However, there is no tone There is no response from the system As an example sending : #7306* then 9 Swapping the LH100 to 7306 and this allows me to control this train Can the same address be loaded in both handsets, or does the 7306 need to be removed? The manual does not have any details for fault finding Any ideas? For those that own the XPA, what do you hear when you listen to the phone, simply with the handset active? Used a XPA for yrs. There is no dial tone when using phone as hand control with Lenz. I set the address on my XPA to 30. To keep it well away from all other controllers. Does the phone beep as each button is pressed.? It should.. When you say phone active, I presume you have pressed the call button before entering loco address. Cheers Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 I set the address on my XPA to 30. To keep it well away from all other controllers. Does the phone beep as each button is pressed.? It should.. When you say phone active, I presume you have pressed the call button before entering loco address. I have followed the instructions precisely Firstly I checked the address on which the LH100 handset was assigned on the LZV100 and this was 01 I therefore tried setting the XPA to address 02 and on completion disconnect the phone call (replace handset) The instructions then advise to set the train address In this case it was #7306 However there is no response when then attempting 3, 6, 9 for throttle settings I tried other addresses, but no response I then tried setting other addresses for the XPA, such as 2, 9, 11, 19, and 21 Again, on entering a train address, no response The instructions also advise there should be a tone heard from the phone, but there never is one There is occasionally a busy tone, but I have confirmed that is created by the phone itself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 I have now performed three RESETs to default Apart from the loss of Language and the stack, no difference Slightly misleading manuals with the Set 100 The handbook for the LH100 handset has details for a RESET, and this is the one I had performed Looked through the handbook for the LZV100 (v3.0) and there is NO information I therefore looked at the hanbook for the LZV100 (v3.6) and there are details in there I have now performed this twice I noted the AutoReverse breaker reset and many models lost their directional lights (some Dapol models retained their lights) However still no response from the XPA I suspect either the LA152 is faulty or the XPA itself I am therefore going to buy a replacement cable, then hardwire it into the LZV100 through connections LMAB If this works, then I know the LA152 is faulty If this does not work, then I know the XPA is faulty The LA152 currently works with the LH100 in either socket Finally, if the XPA is faulty is there anywhere I can send it for diagnostics(to confirm it is faulty) / repair or is it simply a case of disposing and replacing it Equally, could it be the LZV100 itself that does not want to communicate with the XPA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 As I am no further forward trying to work out which component or components are at fault, either the LZV100, LA152 or the XPA Would anyone in the Glasgow / Edinburgh / Stirling area have a Lenz Set 100 and LA152 which I could test? Alternatively, does anyone know of a club which uses this equipment? I would bring my equipment to your premises or the club and then this would help establish which part is at fault I am also willing to pay for the inconvenience, or a donation to the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Would anyone in the Glasgow / Edinburgh / Stirling area have a Lenz Set 100 and LA152 which I could test?Alternatively, does anyone know of a club which uses this equipment? I would bring my equipment to your premises or the club and then this would help establish which part is at fault I am also willing to pay for the inconvenience, or a donation to the club I need to repeat this request, this equipment has now sat for four months and the issue is not resolved I really need to find out if the fault lies with the LZV100, LA152 (although I have since purchased another one and there is no difference) or the XPA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder-Rail Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I have just had the same problem on one of my XPA's. I rang A&H Models (who are the Lenz distributor for the UK) who say that there is a 10-year guarantee on them, however they are now obsolete. I am sending mine back in hope they have some left. Have subsequently been advised to use TouchCab with the new Lenz Interface but as only 1 of the crew has an iPhone, i'd like to keep the XPA's to give people the option! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Friedman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Hello MJKERR, I bought an XPA second hand and could never get it to work, I gave up in the end. You are welcome to come over and test it on my LZV 100 and several LA 152 sockets. I am based a mile or so from the Kincardine Bridge on the Fife side. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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