wagon sheeting

[sulzer27jd]

Hi all - I am looking for information/details on the proper methods for sheeting a wagon. For example an open wagon with a load, how would that be covered with sheets? Where would the ropes be attached to and what methods were used. Any help appreciated.

 

John

[Boris]

http://myweb.tiscali...ads/9-tarps.htm

 

That should give you a start, many wagons had tie down points for wagon sheets, either double ended cleats or a cotton reel type construct that grabbed the rope.

[Fat Controller]

You might also want to look at this; the official guide for use by BR personnel:-

http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Booklet_BR20424_Issue.pdf

[Phil Bullock]

Hi John

 

As ever Paul Bartlett's wagon photos are a rich source of information esp for BR period - heres a clay wagon http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bropenmerchandiseowvcorrugated/h26a310b#h26a310b but for other wagons search through the relevant pages

 

How are you modeling them? Masking tape works well - see

opening sequence, superglued down on the corners!

 

Cheers

 

Phil Bullock

[sulzer27jd]

Great stuff guys - many thanks

[Ray H]

I've seen mineral wagons sheeeted when pressed into service to carry sugar beet and I know that the various wooden planked wagons were often sheeted. However, what wagons(that were sheeted)  were used for similar general merchandise traffic when the wooden bodied wagons departed this world or did the final passing of these wooden bodied wagons only occur as the relevant traffic disappeared from the railway network?

[hmrspaul]

I've seen mineral wagons sheeeted when pressed into service to carry sugar beet and I know that the various wooden planked wagons were often sheeted. However, what wagons(that were sheeted)  were used for similar general merchandise traffic when the wooden bodied wagons departed this world or did the final passing of these wooden bodied wagons only occur as the relevant traffic disappeared from the railway network?

The use of a very standardised tarpulin was no longer suitable, as the wagons were longer. Various re-inforced plastic sheeting was used and several overlapping sheets could be used on some open wagons. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/broaa/e296f6343  http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/broaa/e3288107b

 

Coils were sometimes individually sheeted. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoilpjpv/e4362755

[Ray H]

Thanks Paul.

 

The two images of wagons still show wooden sided vehicles. Do I assume that other than for the sugar beet traffic that I saw being moved in steel sided mineral wagons to the T & L factory at Silvertown in the mid sixties, that wagon sheet per se was consigned to history when the short wheelbase wooden bodied wagons were phased out?

 

The reason I ask is that I have quite a few 16T mineral wagons and wonder if I can make use of them for anything other than coal traffic on a BLT style layout.

[Fat Controller]

Sheeted 16-tonners were relatively uncommon, but some traffics they might have been used for were burnt lime (used for various things), partially-treated limestone for sugar processing, and fish offal/bones etc for fertiliser production. There'd be scope for an odour-dimension on this last one; an anchovy fillet between several wagons, perhaps? You might also get spent hops or grain, which were returned to the countryside- they'd be sheeted, or they'd blow away.

How late is your BLT? Wooden-bodied opens lasted until the early 1980s, after which you'd be unlikely to see anything but coal or scrap in 16-tonners.

[Ray H]

Brian

 

Times period is steam/diesel changeover. I have some wooden bodied wagons (mostly bought secondhand and generally PO stock) which I was planning to sheet, perhaps after suitably reducing the glare of the multi coloured paint jobs of these PO wagons. I just wondered if there was a role for the 16Ts (of which I also have several) other than coal.