R A Watson Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 One subject which comes up regularly on this forum is the question of testing layout mains electrical systems and equipment and the relevant documentation required to comply with hall providers wishes. The H S E has recently revised their guidance documentation and it can be downloaded free by following this link http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg236.pdf. As most modern power units (transformer controllers) are double insulated, that is they have a plastic pin where the traditional earth pin is positioned, they are excempted from PAT requirements. Other fabricated mains fittings (lighting rigs etc) may require a regime of inspection and recording but should not be subject to mandatory indepent, and therefore costly, certification. Any circuits carrying 50volts or less are specifically excluded. It is worth noting that the launch of the new guidance document was a joint presentation betwee the H S E and the B I A (British Insurance Association) whose representative stated that it as not the policy of his members (the insurance companies) to require PAT testing for portable equipment in their event policy documents. I would advise before discussion starts on this topic the intending participants download and read the document. I obtained the original information from an article in the magazine Managing Safely published by the British Safety Institute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 What a useful and sensible post. Thank you Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belsay Lad Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Many thanks for a post which totally clarifies the situation, as I understand it:- Purchase a suitably marked to EC standards double insulated mains to low voltage unit (up to 50v), or units depending on your requirements, have them on the floor with connections from the LV output(s) up to the layout/lighting bar (LEDS?) and no problem? 'Simples!' Seems very common sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted July 30, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2012 Thank you very much for this. You have just reduced my workload at our model railway club by about 75%! Regards Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 One major advantage of PA Testing is that a qualified person will examine electrical equipment. So my message is this; even though PAT is no longer mandated, please do visual exams regularly (every time before you switch it on) of all electrical equipment. Cheers Godders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrobuscp Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Thanks for posting this information. The guidance seems a common sense distillation of the regulations which I've occasionally felt I had to wade through. It certainly makes possible a reduction in formal PA testing, and gets away from the sometimes alarmist selling of testing services that seems all too common. I learnt long ago that electricity, like gas, needs to be treated with respect, part of which is simply checking the condition of plugs and wiring as part and parcel of connecting and using equipment. Much of this is plain old-fashioned common sense - or should be. Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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