'CHARD Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Tantalising picture of the class 27 in the vicinity. Question is can anyone go the full hog and give us a full blown WR instance? Only this one, that I trot out at every available opportunity, and it's so awesome I'll do so again. At 0.03 there's the young lady in question http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Zo5KxvCzrGw then keep watching to enjoy Gala footbridge, and the stone steps from Station Brae, crowded with onlookers. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62440 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 There is a reward to the first person to come up with one! I'll go away now and think of what the reward is ...... Is this the loco type? Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Those are 24s Bruce, this is a 27: From wikipedia, reproduced in line with the terms of the Creative Commons licence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Sorry Bruce, no it's not, that's a class 24 .. the loco number of class 27s would be anything between D5347 to D5415. It also has a heacode panel above the cab (similar to some 24s & class 25s) which aids ID-ing the loco type at a distance when the number is not visible. [Edit] - typed as 'CHARD posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62440 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Sorry Bruce, no it's not, that's a class 24 .. the loco number of class 27s would be anything between D5347 to D5415. It also has a heacode panel above the cab (similar to some 24s & class 25s) which aids ID-ing the loco type at a distance when the number is not visible. [Edit] - typed as 'CHARD posted above. Ah! It's the second loco in the Flickr photo, not the first one. DOH! D5347 D5356 D5364 D5383 D5354 D5358 D5365 Have been noted on the WR. You'll need to go over my photos with me sometime, Matt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Now THAT information is deserving of mention on the Waverley Grail thread. I know of one person who recently took on a 27 with no prospective duties for her, now all that's changed - and with some target ids to boot! I'm off to establish what point these had reached in their livery transition during '68, as at least one of them was a November/ December working. Fantastic stuff Bruce, many thanks for the gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Likewise Bruce. Do we have dates for any of these sightings? Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Likewise Bruce. Do we have dates for any of these sightings? Dave. Well D5383 is an absolute rarity, because she was withdrawn after sustaining accident damage whilst a Wellingborough machine, on Friday 20th August 1965. http://www.derbysulzers.com/5383dw.jpg So my guess is she worked through on an excursion or freight. Unless 12A pressed her into use vice a 64B Type 2 or one of its own charges. (imagine she was used on the Langholm trip - drool, melt, gibber, spasm) D5354 was in blue by September '68, I'm hoping she put in a late appearance. EDIT: and they also served - let's not forget 5350 that got as far as Stainton on 2S52 on 2nd January '69. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Just briefly, while we're on the subject of classes ending in '7' to work the WR, here's a list of Class 37s I cribbed from Flickr. 6700, 6711, 6715, 6729, 6759, 6760, 6762, 6778, 6779, 6787, 6790, 6793, 6819, 6827, 6832, 6834, 6835, 6837, 6838, 6839, 6843 - 6859, 6861, 6865, 6873, 6902, 6903, 6909, 6919, 6936, 6937. Total: 46. Split-box 12, centre-panel 34. A healthy complement of 66A and 64B hardware amongst that lot; interestingly 6700 was loaned to Haymarket for push-pull trials from 29/2/68 under tutelage of the RTC so I suspect that's how she reached the locus. The 67XX contingent were all ER machines, with a heavy Gateshead bias. The low numbered 68XX were Welsh exiled to GD in '66, and the 6837-59 batch were the mainstay ScR allocation transferred in from Wales en masse in '66. We're back to the 52A connection for the remainder of the 68XX; 6902 and 3 were 64B early try-outs, 6909 was a real rarity as it was Welsh throughout the sixties; 6919/36/7 were Welsh until transfer to Eastfield in Spring 68, and onto Haymarket by the Autumn. EDIT: Only main line diesel classes without lists of known members to have worked on the WR now are: 24, 25, 26 (although it's likely that most if not all did) and 40. No Co-Bos are thought to have worked, 5511 plus a couple of other 31s, 21/29s not known if any worked, I'm disregarding 15, 16, 23, 33, hydraulics etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62440 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Sorry Bruce, no it's not, that's a class 24 .. the loco number of class 27s would be anything between D5347 to D5415. It also has a heacode panel above the cab (similar to some 24s & class 25s) which aids ID-ing the loco type at a distance when the number is not visible. Checked the Signalbox Register starting 23 December 1968 ending November 30 1969 and none of these appear in it. Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Checked the Signalbox Register starting 23 December 1968 ending November 30 1969 and none of these appear in it. Bruce Are those years right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62440 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Yes. ...because that's only two weeks' worth of operating Waverley Route! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 3, 2011 Author Share Posted August 3, 2011 Have we seen this pair of Claytons before? http://www.flickr.co...p_99/178254916/ We haven't seen this delicious capture by Kenneth Gray of a B1 taking Hawick's liquor as a Millerhill-bound freight scuttles off into the backstage area.... http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=35096 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 ...because that's only two weeks' worth of operating Waverley Route! Not all trains stopped running on the official closure date. See my post in the level crossing thread for some post closure procedures. The dates quoted by Bruce cover some of that twilight period. I do have a date and a loco ID for what is generally considered to be the last ever train to use the line. All will be revealed in the fullness of time. Bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 From the Berwick and Eastern Borders Facebook group, courtesy of the copyright holder, comes this image of the double-headed 1961 special on the way between steele Road and Riccarton. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150267225058328&set=o.110241279016234&type=1&theater Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted August 6, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 6, 2011 Morning all, am I right in my thoughts this My linkis at Easkbank and Dalkeith? kind regards Duncan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Morning all, am I right in my thoughts this My linkis at Eskbank and Dalkeith? kind regards Duncan It most certainly is. Nice photo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shed64a Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) Morning all, am I right in my thoughts this My linkis at Easkbank and Dalkeith? kind regards Duncan Yes, I think your right. The station building is just visable on the top right of the picture. The platforms are heavily over grown and the track bed is part of the Penicuik to Dalkeith walkway (for now). Edited August 6, 2011 by shed64a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Rintoul Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Just briefly, while we're on the subject of classes ending in '7' to work the WR, here's a list of Class 37s I cribbed from Flickr. 6700, 6711, 6715, 6729, 6759, 6760, 6762, 6778, 6779, 6787, 6790, 6793, 6819, 6827, 6832, 6834, 6835, 6837, 6838, 6839, 6843 - 6859, 6861, 6865, 6873, 6902, 6903, 6909, 6919, 6936, 6937. Total: 46. Split-box 12, centre-panel 34. A healthy complement of 66A and 64B hardware amongst that lot; interestingly 6700 was loaned to Haymarket for push-pull trials from 29/2/68 under tutelage of the RTC so I suspect that's how she reached the locus. The 67XX contingent were all ER machines, with a heavy Gateshead bias. The low numbered 68XX were Welsh exiled to GD in '66, and the 6837-59 batch were the mainstay ScR allocation transferred in from Wales en masse in '66. We're back to the 52A connection for the remainder of the 68XX; 6902 and 3 were 64B early try-outs, 6909 was a real rarity as it was Welsh throughout the sixties; 6919/36/7 were Welsh until transfer to Eastfield in Spring 68, and onto Haymarket by the Autumn. EDIT: Only main line diesel classes without lists of known members to have worked on the WR now are: 24, 25, 26 (although it's likely that most if not all did) and 40. No Co-Bos are thought to have worked, 5511 plus a couple of other 31s, 21/29s not known if any worked, I'm disregarding 15, 16, 23, 33, hydraulics etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Rintoul Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I have a nice colour pic of class 29 D6107 in ex works blue livery which states on the back that it was taken at Carlisle Kingmoor in August 1967. I cannot say for sure that it is Kingmoor, but it is certainly a steam depot. Assuming that it is indeed Kingmoor, is it possible that D6107 wrked via the Waverley Route with a relief train from perhaps Dundee to Morecambe or Blackpool? The loco displays a 1Z headcode indicating a special or relief train? I know that traction knowledge would have been an issue, but that would have been the same regardless of what way the train was routed. Anybody got any ideas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shed64a Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Morning all, am I right in my thoughts this My linkis at Easkbank and Dalkeith? kind regards Duncan Couldn't find these when I replied earlier but here is the same spot a bit closer to the footbridge Here is a view of the steps down to the platform from the station building. These were taken in February, and they are much more over grown now. Not much has really changed. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted August 12, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 12, 2011 Thanks for the photos Chris, interesting to see how it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Here's an interesting one that's just been uploaded onto scot-rail.co.uk .... LINK HERE A4 pacific 60024 Kingfisher shunts D5311 back towards Hawick shed after the diesel had failed on an Edinburgh bound train in the mid 1960s. Photo by "fatsobell". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveArkley Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Here's an interesting one that's just been uploaded onto scot-rail.co.uk .... LINK HERE A4 pacific 60024 Kingfisher shunts D5311 back towards Hawick shed after the diesel had failed on an Edinburgh bound train in the mid 1960s. Photo by "fatsobell". Priceless. Has to be modelled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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