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Potentially repeats, given the volume of content on this thread now :O .

I did try various search terms to no avail - below from G.T. Robinson on Flickr

60824 http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream

60534 http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream

64877 http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream

I think they've all been on here (I linked 1 or perhaps 2 of them), but they are always worthy of repeat linking!

 

I've got a few of GT Robinson's duplicate slides, some really amazing ones which he hasn't got on Flickr - hopefully he may well scan them in and they can join these ones for everyone to see.

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I just noticed these permitted stage service moves for holders of a Freedom of Scotland ticket:

 

Coach - First Edinburgh: Melrose - Galashiels - Peebles - Edinburgh (service 62), Carlisle - Langholm - Hawick - Galashiels - Edinburgh (service X95)

 

Amazing how the legislation that accompanied closure has assured the survival of this anachronism. Quietly pleased I never knew about this when I i) used a Freedom or ii) had my graduate trainee all-line BR staff pass!

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Just when I was thinking of creating D5317 in GSYP, here she is in blue on 04/01/69 with the 1:00pm Carlisle - Edinburgh, captured at Lyneside.

 

A really great trio of shots of Lyneside, these:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36016 - is one of her bodyside windows missing, as was the case - deliberately - in later life of the BRCWs?

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36015 - interesting how 39 years' disuse has seen the platforms pared back by the LMR and overgrown

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36014 - but what is that shunt signal, and where does that glorified trap point go?

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Whenever I'm in this neck of the woods, I'm staggered by - well - how wooded it is compared with 43 years ago!

 

At that time - and as regaled in many a contemporary travelogue - the line struck out from Lyneside in a generally straight nor-nor-westerly direction over the dank floodplain of the Esk toward the Arthuret, and apart from the marshy stretch at Hopesike Woods, it seems that this was basically just arable Cumbrian land with a main line through it. Now - and not unreasonably I suppose - everything seems unkempt, massively overgrown, rutted and marshy once away from Harker. Nature reclaiming its own....

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Down a banking, by the looks!

 

More seriously, Old-Maps.co.uk suggests a loop - presumed goods provision - off to the RHS at that point relative to signalling features. Date: 1901.

Google Earth just now - the limit of deviation suggested by the landscape even today implies that the railway's land take at Lyneside was sufficient for an Up refuge to be provided. I'm surmising that this was one of several that was decommissioned before the end - and obviously on this stretch it was superfluous after 1963 when the southbound freights were re-routed via Mossband.

 

EDIT: Look at Lyneside photo 3 again - the pole route is the giveaway. Surely the height of the shunt signal reflects sighting implications for propelling.

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If I remember correctly, one is hinged at the bottom, so folds down inside. Also think to do that there is a frame within the standard aperture size. No doubt there'll be detail pictures somewhere to confirm, or otherwise.

 

Regards,

26power

 

Just when I was thinking of creating D5317 in GSYP, here she is in blue on 04/01/69 with the 1:00pm Carlisle - Edinburgh, captured at Lyneside.

 

A really great trio of shots of Lyneside, these:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36016 - is one of her bodyside windows missing, as was the case - deliberately - in later life of the BRCWs?

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There was a public siding at Lyneside, more or less to the end. could that set of points be something to do with it?

 

Dave.

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I've been looking for photographic evidence to support the purchase of a new Farish Austerity when it is released as the prototype show at TINGS looked very nice.

 

Here is one at Hawick in 1958 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25897 .Does anyone know of any photos in the mid 60s?

 

I've also been looking for evidence of Stanier 8Fs on the WR in the mid 60s but have yet to find anything. Surely the 8Fs made it onto the WR at some time? Can anyone provide a link to a confirming photo?

 

Cheers

Dave

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There was a public siding at Lyneside, more or less to the end. could that set of points be something to do with it?

 

Dave.

Yep, that's what I was trying to imply earlier. The 1901 map appears to show such a feature in that spot.

 

 

It does. I recreated that on my Lima 27 upgrade of the last century, and the later HJ 27s have a moulded impression of the 'gap' around it.

While I don't have time to go hunting at the moment, vague recollection stirs of one getting a drink from a water tower through this window/aperture...

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I've also been looking for evidence of Stanier 8Fs on the WR in the mid 60s but have yet to find anything. Surely the 8Fs made it onto the WR at some time? Can anyone provide a link to a confirming photo?

 

8Fs traversed the route in some numbers Dave. I'll need a wee bit of time to check the database, but they were far from rare traction. Especially as 12A's impact grew following Canal's demise.

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If I remember correctly, one is hinged at the bottom, so folds down inside. Also think to do that there is a frame within the standard aperture size. No doubt there'll be detail pictures somewhere to confirm, or otherwise.

 

Regards,

26power

Have got photos on my other laptop of the one on D5310 from when we carried out the restoration. It's the 3rd one along from no.1 end. Next to the turbo.

 

During diesel galas it was regularly seen with someone's head leaning out ... and they still carry the nickname the "thrash window" :)

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While I don't have time to go hunting at the moment, vague recollection stirs of one getting a drink from a water tower through this window/aperture...

There was a separate flap for the water inlet, close to the window in question. It was a kind of vertical rectangle with a corner cut off, not the best description but you get the idea! ... Think I've got a photo of the old one from D5310, will get it posted when I find it.

 

Edit: Found one of the BRCW drawings with it on ... between the BR emblem and that 3rd window from no.1 end.

 

 

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I've been looking for photographic evidence to support the purchase of a new Farish Austerity when it is released as the prototype show at TINGS looked very nice.

 

Here is one at Hawick in 1958 http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=25897 .Does anyone know of any photos in the mid 60s?

 

I've also been looking for evidence of Stanier 8Fs on the WR in the mid 60s but have yet to find anything. Surely the 8Fs made it onto the WR at some time? Can anyone provide a link to a confirming photo?

 

Cheers

Dave

48104 at Hawick on this page (on passenger, too).

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I tried to see if these had gone on before, but by Christ* himself there is a lot on here. I understand that Bruce's legend collection has been seen by most, but on looking for A4s and car trains I stumbled across this nice collection. The last one is nice, with the single Ford sat enjoying a face full of ash.

 

http://www.scot-rail...to/scaled/8676/

 

http://www.scot-rail...to/scaled/9620/

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=25176

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=30509

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=29721

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=23975

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=31098

 

EDIT by 'CHARD * other figures of religious and cultural significance are available on request

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Well 29721's a new one on me brother. Sir Murrough Wilson no less, and near Flex at what's I think, for me at least, a new locus. Nothing at all wrong with the EE Type 4 passing Belses, a personal favourite, and not a brake van in sight - which is a touch of major industrial relations significance.

 

As for that Dapol BRCW being rested by an A4, it is bordering on the mindblowing. :O

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Well 29721's a new one on me brother. Sir Murrough Wilson no less, and near Flex at what's I think, for me at least, a new locus. Nothing at all wrong with the EE Type 4 passing Belses, a personal favourite, and not a brake van in sight - which is a touch of major industrial relations significance.

 

As for that Dapol BRCW being rested by an A4, it is bordering on the mindblowing. :O

 

 

It freaked me out that A4, although by the look of the photo the streaker is under some strain, so she's either pushing the little one backwards with solid set wheels or she's dragging it with her creaking boiler.

 

Anyway that photo made me WONDER. Anyone got any ideas on it?

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