Fat Controller Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 When I went past CELSA last Friday afternoon, I saw a couple (at least) of the converted Cargowaggon 'timber' wagons stabled near the road, next to where the shunters are normally parked; does anyone know why they might have been there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 i guess they cant make it down to Devon because of floods Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGT1972 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hi Brian, did you notice whether they were the newly converted blue ones or the older ex-bogie vans and cubes? Seven of the new ones left Barry, where most are in store, the previous week apparently for Canton. Hywel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hi Brian, did you notice whether they were the newly converted blue ones or the older ex-bogie vans and cubes? Seven of the new ones left Barry, where most are in store, the previous week apparently for Canton. Hywel They were the new sort, converted from the 'Holdall' wagons; very nice and bright they looked as well. I saw these wagons the day they arrived at Frethun- they seemed to loiter there for a while. I thought I'd seen some photos of them in traffic, possibly on the workings from Baglan Bay. Given where I saw them on Friday, I did wonder if they were being trialled for CELSA traffic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGT1972 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Interesting, Brian! 26 of them had been at Barry for a while in store with four at Canton. The Canton examples may well have been trialled on the Baglan Bay flow although I've not seen any personally. The ones you saw could be either some of the seven from Barry that left last week or the Canton four. They still look nice and clean at the moment anyway. ASW did convert a former Norsk Hydro van that had become a sleeper carrier for long rebar traffic in 1993 but although it was finished and painted it seemed to get no further than the Tremorfa wagon shops. So these timber wagons could perhaps carry a load of rebar....you never know! Hywel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 'The Canton Four'- sounds like a cause from the 1970s- 'Free the Canton Four!' I'm intrigued by this AS&W modification to a Norse Hydro wagon- do you have any photos? I've encountered two different designs based around Tiphook/Cargowaggon hooded flats; one, shown on the cover of a Cargowaggon brochure, was originally for Caberboard, I believe, and had fifteen or so spindly stanchions per side. When I saw it at Dover, it was carrying engineers' bar. The other had half-a-dozen, rather more chunky, square section stanchions, joined across the wagon floor by substantial bolsters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGT1972 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Free the Canton Four indeed...let them move rebar! Sounds better than the 'Barry 26'... I do have photos of that conversion, taken outside the ASW wagon shop...but I can't find them at the moment...or the album they live in! As soon as I do and can scan them I will email you a copy. The timber carriers (number of wagons unknown) were picked up from Canton by 66727 the day after the additional seven were delivered there from Barry and taken down to Tidal. I'll bet someone reading this recorded the event on a camera - any takers?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted December 1, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2012 I did wonder if they were being trialled for CELSA traffic. I'm not aware that Colas Rail are seeking CELSA traffic (although you never know!). I am aware, however, that growing their share of the timber market is important to them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I have been passing them everyday to work in Cardiff Docks, Im sure there is 4 in total. Where in Barry are they stored, the site of the old shed? Regards Leon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGT1972 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Hi Leon - four would tie in with them being the wagons that first visited Canton while the other 26 headed for Barry. The 19 remaining Barry wagons are stored to the east of the former engine shed and are visible from the area around the Skills Centre and the Medical Centre off the Waterfront development in the town. The four at Celsa were collected by a GBRf class 66 from Canton. If you see the wagons at Celsa doing anything other than just sitting there please post an update! Cheers, Hywel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGT1972 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 For anyone who is not sure of the wagons we are discussing here - this is 83 84 3523 044-9 at Barry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Will do Hywel, thanks for the info, are you in Cardiff? Cheers Leon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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