Crankpins Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Can somebody advise what would be a good kit of a Pannier tank in O gauge? My experience is limited as is my wallet! This would be my first venture into O gauge. Cheers, Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M51625 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 warren sheppard makes a very good kit (54xx), Scorpio also make a kit(57xx/87xx) although of a lesser quality and thus price. If money is not an issue Just like the real thing kits may be an option. Warren sheppard and JLTRT have websites eaily found, scorpio arent in the 21st century as yet. Personally i would build the warren sheppard kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hi' I have built both versions of the JLTRT pannier. The 57xx is mostly etched with a cast one piece resin boiler and tanks.The 8750 version has etched frames and footplate but cab & bunker is also cast in resin. The frames are common to both versions and come complete with sprung hornguides in lost wax brass but can be built rigid if prefered. There are loads of lost wax brass and whitemetal castings for the final detailing and it looks like they cover every version with welded or riveted tanks as an option. I don't have personal experience of the Scorpio kit but I found no problems with the JLTRT one. This is my version of the 57xx before it got its numbers and weathering. Happy modelling, Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hi Ian, I have also built a JLTRT 57XX, and the only reason I would not recommend this kit for a relative beginner is the construction of the bunker ( a bit fiddly ). I have only just found out that ABS have the Vulcan/Underhill pannier back on the market, and this makes up into a great model and is a fairly easy kit to build in my opinion. Hope this is of some help. ATB, Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 My experience is limited as is my wallet! This would be my first venture into O gauge. Cheers, Nick. With a limited wallet the Scorpio kit is by far the cheaper and nowhere near as bad as it has been made out to be above. Sure, Scorpio white metal castings are not the top of the tree when it comes to finesse but they are not that bad. I like the Scorpio kits and personally don't like mixed media (ie resin and metal) kits. But as a first venture into O gauge I don't think any of them are really suitable. For a first kit I would always recommend a wagon, something like the GW Dia N20 also from Scorpio at only £25 + wheels is an excellent introduction to both the scale and kit building. You will then be able to make your own mind up on the castings quality and also have an excellent wagon to sit behind any loco. Other good starter kits are the Y7 and G5 from Connoisseur (though of course not GWR !). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Hi Martyn, I agree that the bunker is a bit fiddly to construct with its combination of etchings and the cast brass corners but I expect that all the other etched kits are similar. For the beginner the 8750 version would be simpler as the bunker is a one piece resin moulding. Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crankpins Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 thanks all. Great looking loco Ian. I'll chat to the management and see if funds can be diverted to this worthy cause. Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The GWR bunker is not at all easy for the inexperienced modeller. (Of course, if you are an experienced solderer, then you should have little trouble). I have built panniers from all the above mentioned manufacturers. Scorpio are good in that they go together very well. Excellent detail including dummy inside valve gear. I agree the castings could be better but with a bit of work are seviceable. But having said that, I think a beginner would find it a bit daunting and not just for the bunker. It may not be of interest but CRT do a lovely 1361 class 0-6-0 ST. It has resin s/box, saddle tank/boiler and very easy to build cab/bunker in etched brass. I think a nice one for a beginner. Also Agenoria do a number of lovely relatively easy to build absorbed GWR locos, without the typical GWR style bunker, therefore making things much easier but are mainly £200+ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Im pretty certain CRT dont sell the kits any more only as RTR. If the scorpio castings are a bit iffy you could always swap them out for Warren shepherd items. Saftey valve bonnets, chimneys, whistles etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 CRT certainly do produce kits again. Check out their website, their prices are very attractive. www.crtkits.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M51625 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Im pretty certain CRT dont sell the kits any more only as RTR. If the scorpio castings are a bit iffy you could always swap them out for Warren shepherd items. Saftey valve bonnets, chimneys, whistles etc Why on earth buy one kit from supplier A and then replace with parts from supplier B? Surely the cost, hassle would suggest buying the kit from supplier B in the first place. Also the OP is a relative beginner, telling him that one manufacturers kit is 75% ok but you need other bits fom someone else is hardly encouraging people into the hobby, just makes it look like a whole load of hassle. As for the ABS (or whatever ex suppplier)pannier being available, i never know if this supplier has stock or not, its one of those that needs to be dragged into the 21st century and have a web prenence, i wonder how much business is lost beacuse of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Aye up, stop it off!!! I have only just got rid of the 7mm bug (impervious to Lemsip and anti-biotics) and now this tempter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Aye up, stop it off!!! I have only just got rid of the 7mm bug (impervious to Lemsip and anti-biotics) and now this tempter! Oh, go on you know you want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Aye up, stop it off!!! I have only just got rid of the 7mm bug (impervious to Lemsip and anti-biotics) and now this tempter! Go on the waters lovely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The waters lovely but plain sailing it wouldnt have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The waters lovely but plain sailing it wouldnt have been. What ever the problem is, it certainly is not your modelling skills . Think of all those beautiful 7mm coaches, clickerty-click,clickerty-click . Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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