shortliner Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I'm working - very slowly (too cold to be out in the garage) on a small project of a transloading facility, and seeing some photos on another forum of scrap being off-loaded by a grab crane from gondolas into 20' containers for export, made me think that this was yet another "industry" that could be added to the basic concept. The containers are removed from the truck trailers, and tilted to get the maximum amount of scrap inside. They can be tilted to 90° but it becomes difficult to model one in that position, so I went for 45° of tilt - build is finished and being left to "set solidly" proir to painting. The container is a cut-down one from a kit obtained from Germany - the rest is plastruct and scratched from the scrap box, and based on one (Though not completely prototypical), manufactured by A J Ward, found on the internet Further photos may follow when painting is completed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Very good. That one in New Jersey also unloads and reloads the container onto the truck. Clever stuff. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 This one is supposed to do the same thing - but it is all glued together into a solid lump - that way it won't come apart if it is being transported and it is only a static scenic model anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Jack, I'm still trying work out the convoluted movements whilst the real one does that! No one has posted pics of it in operation (that i know). Nice model btw. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 A Cad drawn version here - or go to http://a-ward.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhock Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Great work Jack, will go just a treat in a transloading yard. These sort of details are what can turn a plain old spur I to and interesting feature, I built a small transloading conveyor for my spur to unload covered hoppers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I've just seen one of these in use in Sheffield at EMR, it was at an angle of about 50 degrees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 And another one being filled with rubble somewhere between Leeds and Wakefield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Mine is partway painted - ran out of Citadel blood red paint - no-one local stocks it anymore - some ordered via the 'netty-thingie! I could have gone into Games Workshop in Glasgow next week - but it should be here before then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbringer Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Anyone in London can see 3 of these at work just off the north circular at Tottenham. I've been under them at scrapyards several times. They're usually in the most awkward corner of the yard and a swine to reverse into. I detest going into scrapyards with my truck purely for the damage caused to tyres by debris. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 First coat done - a second coat will make it look better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arran Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 HI All Looks nice. Here is one at Dundee docks. Regards Arran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I can just imagine someone spotting one of these with an intelligence satellite, and deciding it's some sort of multiple-missile launcher... The scrap packed within is presumably bound for the Far-East; there've been a couple of derailments of container trains carrying boxes packed with scrap, where the load is uneven over the box floor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 First coat done - a second coat will make it look better DSCN2151.JPG DSCN2152.JPG Looks really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Thanks, guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 This is no doubt going to sound like a dumb question, but how do they get the stuff out of the container at the other end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 This is no doubt going to sound like a dumb question, but how do they get the stuff out of the container at the other end?Tipping container trailers- you'll see them in this country carrying things like IBC/IFF Bulktainers. Most Freightliner terminals have a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 That was the only method I could think of, but at the end of Jack's video, the thumbnails seemed to show vehicles that didn't / couldn't tip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 That was the only method I could think of, but at the end of Jack's video, the thumbnails seemed to show vehicles that didn't / couldn't tip.A couple of options come to mind- one would be the tipping trailer, another would be simply to use the 'tilter' in reverse, more accurately, elevate the closed end and let gravity do its bit. In that way, you could use an ordinary skeletal, which are much more commonplace. I was glad to see there was integral weighing; the weight distribution aspect does concern me though, as there have been several instances of derailment of container trains in the UK due to uneven loads. At least one of these, between Saltley and Washwood Heath, was down to uneven loading of scrap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I thought the CAD animation may show the thing working in reverse. Problem would be, of course, if unloading scrap, they would have to ensure everything was cleared as would be a risk to tyres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Steve - the answer is - they tip them the other way! Either by loading the container on the wagon the other way around - or like this http://www.bulkinside.com/news/making-bulk-handling-more-profitable I think these are a clever idea - I believe the guy who built and patented the first one has made himself a LOT of money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I thought the CAD animation may show the thing working in reverse. Problem would be, of course, if unloading scrap, they would have to ensure everything was cleared as would be a risk to tyres. Scrap merchants don't bother about piffling details like that... Another bit of the site shows their container unloaders, which seem to be slightly different to the loaders. I was interested to see that the firm are actually in Auckland, New Zealand; not a country one normally associates with engineering innovation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Aaaah! All becomes clesr. Thanks chaps. Wish I had thought of that idea! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 So do I - I'd have a very large bank account if I had! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Project completed, second coat and a gloss coat added - now we have to think about the layout!Whoops - just noticed that hydraulic cylinder - a minor repair job there, methinks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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