Southern ballast workings

[cromptonnut]

I know that the majority of Southern region ballast workings were in the hands of Seacow or similar wagons, however I've found this image:

 

http://www.derbysulzers.com/33061feniton83.jpg

 

from March 1983 of a Class 33 at Feniton with a Woking - Meldon Quarry empties.

 

Does anyone have any idea what these wagons are?

[Fat Controller]

Dace- ex-Shockhood B. There used to be large numbers around Tonbridge West Yard, at least on the prototype. The model only had one..

Here's a view of one:-

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brshockhoodb/h12a36c4#h12a36c4

The steps were added when the wagons went to the engineers. Other mods consisted of removal of the hood and taking the shock-absorbing gear out of use.

[Rivercider]

I reckon the first 6 wagons, and possibly the ones at the rear are dace, (see Paul Bartletts site)

they were converted from shochoods, the southern were the main (only?) users of them.

 

cheers 

 

edit - beaten to it!

 

My copy of the Southern C.C.E. wagon guide issued October 1983 shows pool 8387 allocated to Salisbury had 173 of them

[hmrspaul]

This is the collection of DACE I have posted http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dace  As can be seen, I never saw them off the SR.

 

They also had steel floors as part of the conversion.

 

Paul Bartlett

[cromptonnut]

Interesting, thanks for the replies, not heard of that particular one before.  Will head off and do some digging to see if it's available as a kit in 7mm

[Ian G]

Thats a lot of rivits on the side, I think Slaters do a 7mm kit, but looks like a scratch build or an etch for the sides.

 

Ian G

[Pete 75C]

I do vaguely remember these. We used to work a lot of engineers trains and trip freights from Three Bridges over to Tonbridge West Yard back in the mid 80s. Every time we went to Tonbridge, there was always something in the yard that we'd never seen before. Come to think of it, Three Bridges yard was a bit of an Aladdins cave too. I haven't been south of Gatwick for years - is there still a yard at Three Bridges?

[cromptonnut]

Thats a lot of rivits on the side, I think Slaters do a 7mm kit, but looks like a scratch build or an etch for the sides

 

I've found a drawing of the Shochood B on page 88 of http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Book320Part3Issue.pdf which has some dimensional drawings.

 

The Slaters kit 7060 is not a Shochood B.

 

Rivets are not a problem as you can get the rivet transfer sheets, and being a fairly simple set of sides it should be doable fairly easily from plasticard, possibly finding someone to do resin casting, or even 3D printing.  The ends are more troublesome, the Shockwagon ends from the Slaters 7060 may do the job or at least be accurate enough for my needs.

 

On the basis that 99% of people aren't familiar with the prototype I would suggest that I could probably get away with a representation "in the spirit of" the prototype but of course when one wants to build a rake, some sort of uniformity is required even if that uniformity is slightly inaccurate...