RMweb Premium dagrizz Posted March 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2013 I was at a pub quiz yesterday and one round of questions was on the subject of 'Flying'. Most questions were nothing to do with flying of course, and one question went; "The Flying Scotsman locomotive was built in 1956, Where was it manufactured?" I immediately donned my metaphorical anorak and told the quizmaster that his question was wrong and that the loco had been built in the 1920's. Quizmaster was having none of it and was confident of his info source. Thankfully his source did agree that the loco was built at Doncaster so we didn't lose points. It got me wondering though where the year 1956 came from - did Flying Scotsman have any mods/rebuild/overhaul in 1956 that may have confused the quizmaster when looking at his source material? Regards Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I can't think how 1956 factors in: 1472 built as A1 - February 1923 4472 renumbered - Februrary 1924 (displayed at the British Empire Exhibition 1924-1925) 4472 non-stop Kings Cross/Edinburgh - 1928 4472 100 mph - 1934 502 renumbered - January 1946 103 renumbered - May 1946 103 rebuilt as A3, - January 1947 (with banjo dome) 60103 renumbered - December 1948 (it was blue sometime around here) 60103 Kylchap chimney added - somewhere between 1958 - 1959 60103 smoke deflectors added - 1960 60103 retired - 1963 Even confusion with the Deltic-hauled Flying Scotsman doesn't fit. They were built 1961-62 and started hauling the Scotsman in 1961. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2013 Probably got confused with the 'Flying Scot' sailing dinghy. http://www.boatus.com/boatreviews/sail/FlyingScot.asp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Ava_Hay Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 A lot of these pub quizzes are not compiled by the quizmaster at all but by an agency which then sells the questions and answers to the quizmaster who then, in turn, sells his services to the pub. It is quite likely that the quizmaster has little idea what the Flying Scotsman even is let alone what year it was built or where. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium martin_wynne Posted March 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2013 http://www.bolegaindia.com/sawaal/Current_Affairs/In_which_town_was_the_Flying_Scotsman_locomotove_manufactured_in_1956-qid-76159-qc-166.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dagrizz Posted March 5, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2013 A lot of these pub quizzes are not compiled by the quizmaster at all but by an agency which then sells the questions and answers to the quizmaster who then, in turn, sells his services to the pub. It is quite likely that the quizmaster has little idea what the Flying Scotsman even is let alone what year it was built or where. David, I'm fairly sure they set their own questions but when you are looking for info on topics that you know little about, you can easily be misled by articles such as the link quoted above by Martin Wynne. Martin where did that come from? And what has David Beckham got to do with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold unravelled Posted March 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think that link's a cunning way of harvesting a lot of email addresses by getting people to sign in to post a correction. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium martin_wynne Posted March 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2013 Martin where did that come from? And what has David Beckham got to do with it? I'm not sure what you mean? It's a link to an Indian web site which is owned by: Domain Name: BOLEGAINDIA.COM Registration Date: 05-May-2008 Expiration Date: 05-May-2013 Status:ACTIVE Name Servers: ns1.bolegaindia.com ns2.bolegaindia.com Registrant Contact Details: Indeas Technologies Shashi natani (indeastechnologies@gmail.com) S-10, Jeevan Vihar Complex, New Colony, M I Road Jaipur Rajasthan,302001 IN Tel. +91.1413253500 Administrative Contact Details: Indeas Technologies Shashi natani (indeastechnologies@gmail.com) S-10, Jeevan Vihar Complex, New Colony, M I Road Jaipur Rajasthan,302001 IN Tel. +91.1413253500 Technical Contact Details: Indeas Technologies Shashi natani (indeastechnologies@gmail.com) S-10, Jeevan Vihar Complex, New Colony, M I Road Jaipur Rajasthan,302001 IN Tel. +91.1413253500 Billing Contact Details: Indeas Technologies Shashi natani (indeastechnologies@gmail.com) S-10, Jeevan Vihar Complex, New Colony, M I Road Jaipur Rajasthan,302001 IN Tel. +91.1413253500 Martin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 David, I'm fairly sure they set their own questions but when you are looking for info on topics that you know little about, you can easily be misled by articles such as the link quoted above by Martin Wynne. Martin where did that come from? And what has David Beckham got to do with it? It varies. I helped to organise several charity quiz dinners about twenty years ago and AFAIR bought the general knowledge questions from a quiz agency who also supplied TV programmes- they weren't expensive and were set at an appropriate level for our audiences of journalists and lawyers- we added a few specialist questions and invented a few rounds ourselves. Nowadays there are a lot of sites offering free quiz questions (and answers) on the web but there is of course no guarantee of their quality. It took me all of five minutes to find the quiz that Graham met on Sunday complete with the rubbish question about the Flying Scotsman that I presume the Indian site "borrowed" . I've not checked the other answers but the fact that they also misspelt "locomotove" in the offending question probably tells you everything you need to know and the ten questions date from 2010. http://www.quiz-zone.co.uk/quizrounds/sub_101107Flying790/questions.html It's free so I guess you get what you pay for but a quizmaster who constantly lands the pubs they work in with justified complaints about wrong answers will presumably find their bookings drying up rather quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2013 Some of these quizzes are very poor - Mrs Stationmaster belongs to what is generally a very good quiz site where the members set quizzes and most are excellent. But a recent railway quiz contained two very bad sets of answers - when asked to select which was wrong in the statement about Brunel's broad gauge I chose the one which said the entire GWR network was converted to standard gauge in 48 hours, I should have chosen the one which said that the Russians copied Brunel's gauge according to the compiler. Alas the truism seems to be that there is no control over the quality, or otherwise, of quiz compliers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Some of these quizzes are very poor - Mrs Stationmaster belongs to what is generally a very good quiz site where the members set quizzes and most are excellent. But a recent railway quiz contained two very bad sets of answers - when asked to select which was wrong in the statement about Brunel's broad gauge I chose the one which said the entire GWR network was converted to standard gauge in 48 hours, I should have chosen the one which said that the Russians copied Brunel's gauge according to the compiler. Alas the truism seems to be that there is no control over the quality, or otherwise, of quiz compliers. Presumably a lot of the fun in a quiz with questions set by the members is for other members to enjoy telling them where they've got it wrong- now where else do we meet that?? I think these days pub quizzes are in any case mainly testing teams' speed at using Google on their smartphones to find the answers so I wouldn't take them too seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The content of this thread matches a concl;usion a group of my friends came to about two years ago. We would participate roughly quarterly in such a quiz for charitable purposes, lots of fun. Until about three years ago when the duffness quotient of both questions and answers began to rise significantly. A prize one I recall was 'To which Mediterranean island was Napoleon sent in exile after the battle of Waterloo?'. When it gets to the point that clarification has to be requested on about every fifth question, it gets rather tedious. As a result we now only do one per year set by a reliable old stager who does it all himself and has only once boobed and then very slightly, a year out on the accepted date of Emperor Nero's death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dagrizz Posted March 5, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2013 Nowadays there are a lot of sites offering free quiz questions (and answers) on the web but there is of course no guarantee of their quality. It took me all of five minutes to find the quiz that Graham met on Sunday complete with the rubbish question about the Flying Scotsman that I presume the Indian site "borrowed" . I've not checked the other answers but the fact that they also misspelt "locomotove" in the offending question probably tells you everything you need to know and the ten questions date from 2010. http://www.quiz-zone.co.uk/quizrounds/sub_101107Flying790/questions.html It's free so I guess you get what you pay for but a quizmaster who constantly lands the pubs they work in with justified complaints about wrong answers will presumably find their bookings drying up rather quickly. Thanks for that, I shall throw it back in his face next week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 On a railway theme I have been asked "What was the relationship between George and Robert Stephenson?" The answer was "Brothers" and nothing I said would change it. Two weeks later, "What did Tim Berners Lee invent?". The answer was "the internet" with a rather reluctant "Although we will accept world wide web if you put that". Cue more giggles from me. About a year later, "Can life exist on Earth without sunlight?". I answered "Yes", but the "correct" answer was "No". Creatures living in the dark depths of the ocean obviously do not count. We don't do any pub quizzes now, apart from the odd mistakes they have become too competitive. Eight people sitting around a table but only two actually pay to enter the quiz. Not to mention mobile phones with encyclopaedias. I don't mind losing fairly, but not to cheats. Edit for spelling mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2013 Our last English "local" had pub quizzes, and as that was nearly a decade ago, smartphones were not an issue. Furthermore the quizmaster was the landlady's diabetic husband, and he found questions in all sorts of places, few of which were ever contestable. When we moved to France - so did they! So until a couple of years ago, we had occasional quizzes among the Brit community, most of which Deb or I (we decided to be in separate teams) managed to win. I think it was in what turned out to be the final quiz, however, that quizmaster Keith came unstuck - and of course couldn't accept that. "Who is the Lord Mayor of London?" And the only answer he was looking for was Boris Johnson...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hughes Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Some of these quizzes are very poor - Mrs Stationmaster belongs to what is generally a very good quiz site where the members set quizzes and most are excellent. But a recent railway quiz contained two very bad sets of answers - when asked to select which was wrong in the statement about Brunel's broad gauge I chose the one which said the entire GWR network was converted to standard gauge in 48 hours, I should have chosen the one which said that the Russians copied Brunel's gauge according to the compiler. Alas the truism seems to be that there is no control over the quality, or otherwise, of quiz compliers. But the entire GWR network certainly wasn't converted in one weekend - only the remaining BG-only parts, and then only after (i) a vast amount or preparation beforehand and (ii) a dickens of a lot of straightening up and bedding in afterwards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 But the entire GWR network certainly wasn't converted in one weekend - only the remaining BG-only parts, and then only after (i) a vast amount or preparation beforehand and (ii) a dickens of a lot of straightening up and bedding in afterwards! But have you ever tried to argue the toss on such matters in the middle of a pub quiz? Best way to acquire a lasting reputation as a smart@rse! Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted March 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2013 The fact that the questions are written by one person and read by another can often have humerous results too. I can remember being asked "At what age did Henry ill inherit the throne?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium martin_wynne Posted March 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2013 Surely the object of an enjoyable pub quiz is to guess the wrong answer written on the card, not to provide the correct answer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dagrizz Posted March 5, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2013 I remember one quiz I was at many years ago when the questions were asked by the quiz master/setter and the answers given out later by one of his mates, who informed us that 'the largest port in Europe is Rotherham.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think these days pub quizzes are in any case mainly testing teams' speed at using Google on their smartphones to find the answers so I wouldn't take them too seriously.Are these quizzes implemented electronically? The only 'pub' quizzes I know are done automatically with the questions appearing on a video screen with buttons on the table to select multiple choice answers. You score more points by answering quickly and there is a time limit which would test mobile Googlers. Delta airlines implemented one of these automatic quizzes on their seat back entertainment system. The high points winners were identified by seat position. It was a diverting way to spend time on an aeroplane - for a while. The one time I tried it, right at the point where I had scored enough points to take the lead, the entertainment system crashed for my section of the 'plane and the flight attendants couldn't reboot it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 right at the point where I had scored enough points to take the lead, the entertainment system crashed for my section of the 'plane and the flight attendants couldn't reboot it. That was an error in the quiz system. What was meant to happen was: right at the point where I had scored enough points to take the lead, the flight entertainment attendants couldn't reboot it for my section, and the system crashed the 'plane. So it's not all bad news when quizzes don't work properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 So it's not all bad news when quizzes don't work properly.Hopefully flight management systems are more reliable than inflight infotainment systems and that the two sytems are not inter-related in any way. Though I wonder if the conflagration-prone Lithium-ion batteries in the Boeing 787 Dreamliner were there in part to help serve power to infotainment. The in-flight infotainment systems are consuming a larger and larger share of on-board power requrirements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 On a railway theme I have been asked "What was the relationship between George and Robert Stevenson?" The answer was "Brothers" and nothing I said would change it. Did Robert Louis Stevenson have a brother called George? Otherwise I have no idea to whom the question refers. (There was of course Robert, son of George Stephenson, but no one would make that mistake in a quiz, shirley?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Well they would if like me they had typed the name wrong! It just goes to show even know alls can make mistakes sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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