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So my dad did his national service in the RAF and ended up in Egypt crashing Lockheed Constellations in the desert!

 

he did take his 6x9cm roll film camera but mainly photographed his service mates but did take this one of a ROD 2-8-0 with the 6 wheel brake van full of guards on the front. Note the bent footplate

 

I've got his service book somewhere and I'll try and find a date

 

On the same roll of film are the following. All the LNER locos still carry their LNER numbers

 

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ROD 2-8-0 Egypt edit.jpg

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21 hours ago, kevsmiththai said:

ROD 2-8-0 Egypt edit.jpg

 

Thank you very much for this great photo, Kev. I is quite rare not only for the bent ROD but also (mostly?) for the clear view of the locally concocted 6-wheel brake van. There were, apparently, 70 of the type converted from flats, but I've never seen a good photo of one until now. I attach below the official Egyptian State Railway Diagram for the type (updated to the mid-1940s) from the collection of The Israel Railway Museum.
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And here is another shot of an ROD with this type of van, in a more ordinary consist, on a freight at Geneifa (Suez Canal Zone), 05.1947 (photo by Jeff Horsman, courtesy of my friend, the late Ray Ellis of Australia):
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Many British-built locos and/or designs were exported to Portugal but this is a particularly early and strange-looking example!

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The cab roof is unlike anything I’ve ever seen before! 
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Built in 1857 and used until the 1920s, it is now preserved at Entroncamento. 

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Yes, Fairburn, with various building dates given during the 1850s.  It was preserved in working order for a long time at Braga, then moved to store at Nine before going to Entroncamento a couple of years ago.   I believe there is an intention to move it again, nearer to its sphere of operation (Minho-Douro), but when I checked (before visiting in 2022) such plans weren't immediate.

 

I'm very pleased to have finally caught up with the locomotive, have "dipped out" in previous attempts at Braga and Nine (twice).

 

In total around 178 British built steam locomotives went to Portugal (besides diesels and electrics, some mentioned up thread), of which ten (possibly eleven) survive.  Here's another - a rather spectacular "one-off" 2-2-2 built by Beyer Peacock (BP 328/1862), on display with carriages from the royal train.  I first saw the locomotive/carriages at Santarém twenty years ago, but as with many items from the National Collection were moved to Entroncamento as the museum there was expanded and now has its own display hall.

 

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25 minutes ago, EddieB said:

Yes, Fairburn, with various building dates given during the 1850s.  It was preserved in working order for a long time at Braga, then moved to store at Nine before going to Entroncamento a couple of years ago.   I believe there is an intention to move it again, nearer to its sphere of operation (Minho-Douro), but when I checked (before visiting in 2022) such plans weren't immediate.

 

A shot on my web site taken outdoors when the 1850's 2-2-2T was displayed at Braga:

CP Caminhos de Ferro Portugueses  -  Portuguese Railways broad gauge

 

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17 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

Many British-built locos and/or designs were exported to Portugal but this is a particularly early and strange-looking example!

CF4E6C0B-597C-4CD9-98D6-E345066A8853.jpeg.f847eb3f9a010deaf5fee16599ca1ec1.jpeg

The cab roof is unlike anything I’ve ever seen before! 
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Built in 1857 and used until the 1920s, it is now preserved at Entroncamento. 

 

Anyone else thinking this might be one for the "show us your pugbash" thread? :)

 

Although I'm thinking that might be good for a build for my garden line, looks suitably Steampunk, especially the roof... thanks for sharing!

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On 22/01/2024 at 13:44, TTDB said:

Not so much as a British outline but BREL did supply  Taiwan railways with some MK2 based EMU units in the 1970s unfortunately all now withdrawn from service

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They even had AEI "cross-arm" pantographs (as originally on Class 87s). 🙂

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The Thai Super Sprinters were built on a parallel production line to the Class 158s.Uprated Air Conditioning, Leather seats ( To Control bed bugs)and ,of course metre gauge. In service the air conditioning has proved to be the achilles heal of the class with several laid up waiting for repairs last time I was there

 

 

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The lack of gangway connections is obvious

Thai Railways Brel DEMU 2509 Hua Lamphong 2005.jpg

 

ABC Buckeye couplers are the norm in Thailand

THai Rail BRELSuper Sprinter 2512 with Alsthom Co-Co Hua Lamphong 2009.jpg

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On 22/01/2024 at 13:44, TTDB said:

Not so much as a British outline but BREL did supply  Taiwan railways with some MK2 based EMU units in the 1970s unfortunately all now withdrawn from service

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Pretty much mk2e/f outline class 312's with a more up to date control system. 

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'8F' 45153 at Ulukisla in the 1970s

 

Photos by my late uncle, Jeremy Wiseman

 

As ever with Turkey, a fascinating 'geopolitical' (and loading gauge)  mix with the 8F attached to a DRG 'Hecht' coach

 

 

 

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It seems this fascinating thread has yet to mention one of the most historically significant British-outline locomotive to have worked overseas, one that is actually now being restored back in the UK - LMS 7069, one of the forefathers of the numerous Class 08.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LMS_shunter_No_7069.jpg

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/rail-uk/20190911/282900912277171

I actually never heard of it until recently reading "British Rail Fleet Survey 7: Diesel Shunters" by Brian Harensnape, whence I duly googled this adorable photo of the loco when used in France:
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(source: 
https://www.cheminots.net/topic/40418-transvap-beillé-72/)

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A few years ago I was exhibiting one of my Z gauge layouts at at a model railway show. Most trade stands have little interest for me as they are mainly new and second hand 00 and but there was one that has a box of colour slides. "What are they ? " I asked the vendor " Dunno, make me an offer"

 

I'd had a quick look and there was some useful stuff so a deal was done. Sparse captions and quite a few are mysteries on the Southern region but, in amongst it, were some shots taken in Turkey of 8F 45160 just before loading onto Vikingland for its return to the U.K in 1989

 

 

 

 

 

 

8F 45160 Dockside in Turkey edit.jpg

 

with the dockside cranes in the background

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Noticeable air res tanks on the footplate

 

The Turkish crew

45160 and the Turkish Crew edit.jpg

 

On board Vikingland prior to departure

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In steam on the dockside . As I understand the loco had recently been overhauled and was allowed to be steamed when it  arrived at Swanage after unloading at Immingham

45160 in steam, dockside in Turkey 1989edit.jpg

 

Have a load of stuff of it on arrival at Swanage if anybody is intereted

 

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One of my great regrets, when I was in Thailand ,was getting to Kabin Buri and not photographing the surviving Brush 0-6-0T posed on the turntable there. I had been tipped off by the traincrew that they were not hanging around and that our train might be the last of of the day due to the weather 

 

Brush Engineering are not well known as steam loco builder but there were some Falcon works examples worldwide

 

No 62 showing its metre gauge profile with Chopper coupling

 

 

Brush metre gauge 0-6-0T no 62 in Thailand edit.jpg

 

61 was outside Makkasan works, I understand it has now been cosmetically restored and put on display at Hua Lamphong station in Bangkok

 

Thai Railways Brush metre gauge 0-6-0T no 61 at Makkasan works 2009.jpg

 

 

Kev

 

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So looking at the Video North British 4-6-0 165 is there along with Brush 0-6-0T 61. Ex Rhaetien Bahn 2-8-0 336, Hanomag 4-6-2 278, Henschel 0-6-0T 54 and the two Davenports. pretty much the enitre Makasan demic siding really except C56 2-6-0 733 ( Which was very tatty and incomplete). The cosmetic restoration of these is pretty incredible, almost too good

 

 

Need to go and have a look for myself although my next full size project, Thomas Hill 0-6-0DH 10111 ( BNFL no 2) leaves Sellafield for the Eden Valley Railway at Warcop tomorrow and I have quite a bit of work to do getting the controls converted back to normal and training the crews on how to drive it ( Back when I was 'On the spanners' before becoming a Boss) it was my pet engine at Sellafield

 

Sadly can't be there for it coming out, Still laid up with a broken ankle so tramping around sidingsin Cumbria with my leg in plaster is not really on

 

 

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