Woolleysh33p Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Help Hi all I am looking to convert rtr n gauge stock to network rail yellow stock. Please help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 PH Designs and Hurst have kits to convert some RTR stock to various NR units. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted March 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2013 Electra graphics do vinyl overlays. We have used a few of these and on coaches they are very good. http://www.electrarailwaygraphics.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolleysh33p Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Electra graphics do vinyl overlays. We have used a few of these and on coaches they are very good.http://www.electrarailwaygraphics.co.uk/ Hi Are the Electra graphics easy to apply because I have seen some brilliant ones, and also some horrid ones where it has been done horribly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted March 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2013 Hi Are the Electra graphics easy to apply because I have seen some brilliant ones, and also some horrid ones where it has been done horribly They need care. Your first one wiill probably not be brilliant but the next ones will get better. I tend to use the ones that go on a flat surface such as the Farish Mk3's and Mk2's. I havent mastered putting them round curved fronts yet. I tend to spray the sheet with a couple of coats of Dullcote before removing them from the sheet. This seals the surface from any damp as priopr to this I did get a few small marks on the surface. The dullcote also takes away the high shine. The sides can be removed and repositioned once or twice as long as you haven't pressed them down fully. So far we have the Chiltern Mainline set, EWS business train, Network Rail HST coaches, Network rail Ultrasonic test train. The EWS test train had the sides sprayed as above and I think it looks much better than our earlier ones.. I have also done a FGW class 165. The sides are very good but I didnt get the front end quite right. This has now been replaced with a Shapeways body which has the correct profile which the Farish 168 body shell doesnt for a 165. Others are planned. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolleysh33p Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 They need care. Your first one wiill probably not be brilliant but the next ones will get better. I tend to use the ones that go on a flat surface such as the Farish Mk3's and Mk2's. I havent mastered putting them round curved fronts yet. I tend to spray the sheet with a couple of coats of Dullcote before removing them from the sheet. This seals the surface from any damp as priopr to this I did get a few small marks on the surface. The dullcote also takes away the high shine. The sides can be removed and repositioned once or twice as long as you haven't pressed them down fully. So far we have the Chiltern Minline set, EWS business train, Network Rail HST coaches, Network rail Ultrasonic test train. The EWS test train had the sides sprayed as above and I htink it looks much better than our earlier ones.. I have also done a FGW class 165. The sides are very good but I didnt get the front end wuite right. This has now been replaced with a Shapeways body whihc has the correct profile which the Farish 168 body shell doesnt for a 165. Others are planned. Ian Is it easier to reprint or use the transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted March 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2013 The vinyl sides come ready printed by Electra. I believe that if you mess one side up then they will do you replacement sides without having to buy the whole set again. To confirm this just email Adam at Electra Graphics. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolleysh33p Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Oh and before I forget, Ian are you the owner of Banbury in n gauge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted March 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2013 Oh and before I forget, Ian are you the owner of Banbury in n gauge? Yes thats me. Although its not all my stock. One of our operators owns most of the Network Rail items. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolleysh33p Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 I LOVE YOUR LAYOUT!!!!! Did the person who owns the stock use the Electra transfers on his stock? Also, at the international n gauge show a couple of years ago, I saw your layout and there were network rail auto baluster wagons. We're these painted as they were brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted March 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2013 I LOVE YOUR LAYOUT!!!!! Did the person who owns the stock use the Electra transfers on his stock? Also, at the international n gauge show a couple of years ago, I saw your layout and there were network rail auto baluster wagons. We're these painted as they were brilliant! Thanks. Yes he used Electra Graphics. It was last year that the layout was at The International N Gauge Show.. The yellow autoballasters are mine. They are the N Gauge Society kits. They still need weathering but that will soon be rectified. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolleysh33p Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Is the kit 035d by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted March 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2013 Is the kit 035d by any chance? Not sure of the number. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolleysh33p Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolleysh33p Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 With the electra graphics network rail transferres, the set of 5 is meant for mk3 coaches. Is this only the old farish ones? Also, does the paint need stripping back on the coaches before the transferres are placed on? and finally, to buy them, do i just need to send him an email? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davep101 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I've done a few coaches now for my irish n scale project, you do need to strip them 1st , u use the older Poole? Bodies , somebody may correct me on this, I generally use brasso and cotton wool to get rid of the printed livery and details. I've had good results with my coaches, and I think someone mentioned if you c**k up Adam (captain electra) will sort out the damaged piece so you indeed don't have to buy a whole new pack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolleysh33p Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Ok thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted March 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25, 2013 I have generally used the newer Chinese bodies (Made in China on the underside) and stripped them using brasso. The mk3's are still readily available. The old mk 1's are harder to find new but many 2nd hand traders have them. I believe that nail varnish remover is better on the Poole built ones but I have also used Brasso on the odd one or two of these. However these Poole built ones do need more elbow greese. Make sure you wash the bodies a few times afterwards to get all the Brasso off them. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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