garethevans1986 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 All, I'm looking for signal box diagrams from Hooton to the Birkenhead area. I've seen some interesting photos of Rock Ferry and Hooton in 1976. http://www.flickr.com/photos/90752501@N07/8353336647/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/90752501@N07/8366944787/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/90752501@N07/8366945947/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/90752501@N07/8370103105/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/90752501@N07/8408535337/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/28083135@N06/7908947104/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/90752501@N07/8263641383/ Thank you in advanced. Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohanlonmartin Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Terrific photo's Gareth especially the one with the hordes of passengers changing trains. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethevans1986 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 Thank you Martin, Im glad somebody took the photos when they did and before the third rail was extended to Chester. Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2013 Terrific photo's Gareth especially the one with the hordes of passengers changing trains. Martin It was even funnier if you put the Mersey into 4 - on the extreme right and the Chester into 1 - on the extreme left and watched them run ... Gareth - try this book for Rock Ferry http://www.amazon.co.uk/Last-Merseyrail-Signal-Boxes-Part-Wirral/dp/B007T47JGI You might even find a familiar name in there ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2013 Hooton 1978 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethevans1986 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 Thanks Dave. I'm debating whether to build Hooton in the 1978 era or not....4mm rather than 7mm! Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted August 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2013 Would love to see a layout based on Hooton around the early 80's. One of my faves from Flikr, brings back so many memories: Engines Running by Feversham Lens, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2013 Thanks Dave. I'm debating whether to build Hooton in the 1978 era or not....4mm rather than 7mm! Gareth If you do I have photos of all of the signals and several of the box. It's quite big but could stand a lot of compression and the run round could be off scene of course. I have a lot of information regarding the trains too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted August 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2013 Hi folks, Can recommend the book suggested by Beasy66606; there's a volume on the Northern lines too, that's well worth having. Have used the Wirral book to plan a 00 model of West Kirby. Good to compare what's there now with some of the historical stuff in the books. There's so much modelling potential for the lines in the Wirral (I have to say that as my in-laws live there!). Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethevans1986 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 I've asked the wife to get me the book. Dave, any chance you could send me what you've got on Hooton please and I'll get sketching ;-) Thanks Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Three views of the 2 diagrams at Rock Ferry Box. The flash has, unfortunately, burnt out some of the detail. There were two diagrams as there used to be two signalmen; the Mersey man looked after levers 1 - 20 and the Joint man looked after levers 21 - 60. The box was single manned in early 1980. The views date from 5/3/1984 just after crossover 12 had been converted to clamp lock operation, levers 11 and 13 (formerly FPLs) being retained as interlocking levers; to save the interlocking being altered. Locos could run wrong line from Green Lane Junction and lever 37 allowed this. Hooton diagram in 1978 not long before the frame was reduced in length from 128 levers to 80 levers. Two views in the box before and after the frame reduction. Finally some views from the box 1980ish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 A view of 40 106 passing Hooton South with the local trip from Ellesmere Port to Birkenhead Ca1980. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hi Gareth, Hopefully you have enough information to get thoughts together, ask away if you need clarification on either of the track layouts, Keith and I know them very well. If you decide to proceed with one of the locations I will dig out more information, at the moment it would be a lot of effort for me to gather and I don't want to spend the time only to find you have decided to model Exeter (nothing personal, I've just been there too many times) - I have train registers and special traffic notices, these also cover down to Bescot and have a lot of detail about special trains, and other paperwork. I'm sure Keith and I can answer "off the top of our heads" most things anyway (except specifics like "Did 40013 work through Hooton on 14 July 1978?") Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethevans1986 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Awesome, thanks for the photos Dave. I wouldn't mind the Hooton signal box diagram image in the largest form you have please. Thank you Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Three sketches of signal box diagrams. Rock Ferry 5/3/1984 (the date of the photos). Hooton (South Jcn) before the frame was shortened and the layout altered. .... and after the alterations of 1978. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethevans1986 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Smashing thank you Flyingsignalman! Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_anorak59 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 On 04/08/2013 at 21:58, flyingsignalman said: Three views of the 2 diagrams at Rock Ferry Box. The flash has, unfortunately, burnt out some of the detail. There were two diagrams as there used to be two signalmen; the Mersey man looked after levers 1 - 20 and the Joint man looked after levers 21 - 60. The box was single manned in early 1980. 002 -1984.jpg 003 -1984.jpg 004 -1984.jpg The views date from 5/3/1984 just after crossover 12 had been converted to clamp lock operation, levers 11 and 13 (formerly FPLs) being retained as interlocking levers; to save the interlocking being altered. Locos could run wrong line from Green Lane Junction and lever 37 allowed this. Apologies for the lateness, but I've only just stumbled across this thread - the Rock Ferry Signal diagrams being of particular interest to me, as I now own them! Having said that, I think that the main diagram that FlyingSignalMan has attached must be a replacement, as mine shows the full layout before rationalisation? I acquired the main panel c.1991 in an antique shop in Preston, and the smaller panel about 7 years ago from Ebay - that panel was in Leatherhead! Here's the main panel undergoing cleaning to remove decades of nicotine staining, and it now hangs above my layout - hope it's of interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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