Andy618 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Good evening all! I have just returned to the hobby after a 15 year gap (work got in the way) and i've just started my first project; a small branch terminus in Northamptonshire. The layout is based on a fictitious station that works on the idea that the branch line from Wellingborough did not terminate at Higham Ferrers- as in reality- but continued on to Oulton Hadley (as a historical note, the line was originally intended to extend past Higham to Raunds, but never did). I have done some research into the line but my question relates to the type of traffic worked on the branch. In reality, the line was just over five miles long and only had one intermediate staion (two in my little world) and was single track all the way. I understand push-pull sets worked back and forwards from Wellingborough to Higham Ferrers but would any traffic extend beyond Wellingborough, for example to Kettering or Market Harborough, or was the idea that traffic on these small branches would work as far as the first junction and passengers changed there for their onward journey? I ask because, due to space limitatiions (the entire layout being restricted to 4' x 2') Oulton Hadley has a very short run around loop - the maximum an engine can run around is two Mk.1's or two Staniers and a van. Would you expect anything longer on a short branch such as this? I have included a route map; any comments or suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading! Andy Sunny Lincolnshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I believe a couple of the books (if you've not already found them, search for "Richard Coleman" and Northampton/shire, and Goslin's "Bedford to Wellingborough", also "Last days of steam in Northamptonshire" and there's a history "Five Minutes Late") refer to a Saturdays-only passenger service to Leicester in the 1950s. On one occasion this used an ex-LMS Jubilee; I think the other pictures I've seen of the service either had an ex-LMS Compound or 4f and 4-ish coaches. If you want to stretch a point around 1956 an ex-LYR 2-4-2t was used on the push-pull service, but was the Belpaire version rather than that modelled by Bachmann (which Bedford shed got but barely used, allegedly), and Class 27s turned up before closure. If space is an issue maybe a DMU could represent the Leicester service instead? I don't have the freight WTT to hand but thought the service was to Wellingborough, *but* Five Minutes Late have a number of oddities on the workings (including ex-LNER O4/3, B1 and a J6, presumably just passing through and pressed into service from Wellingborough shed rather than a special service) and 8F at Higham Ferrers itself, so together with 3F and 4F 0-6-0s and medium to large ex-LMS/BR tanks there's potential for variety - and larger locomotives at the quieter end of your branch if you want? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I have two photos of trains at Higham Ferrers in my collection: 84007_undated by robertcwp, on Flickr 45137_Undated by robertcwp, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I recollect a photo in Railway Magazine when the branch closed, showing iron-ore tipplers being loaded from a bank at Higham Ferrers. The bank was high enough for the lorries to tip directly into the wagons. Motive power was a Class 27- this must have been about their final fling in the Midlands before heading north. I wonder if the Black 5- hauled train that Robert's posted was a Rushden Diamonds football special? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I doubt the Black 5 train would have been a football special, certainly not for Rushden & Diamonds, which didn't come into being until the 1990s. Maybe more probably a seaside special or possibly the Saturday Leicester train. Factory fortnight specials were fairly common in the area in the 50's and into the 60s. IIRC, there were specials on a regular basis after daily trains ceased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I doubt the Black 5 train would have been a football special, certainly not for Rushden & Diamonds, which didn't come into being until the 1990s. Maybe more probably a seaside special or possibly the Saturday Leicester train. Factory fortnight specials were fairly common in the area in the 50's and into the 60s. IIRC, there were specials on a regular basis after daily trains ceased. I hadn't realised Rushden and Diamonds were that recent. There was a public school at Raunds, so could this have been a school special? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I seem to recall several photos at Wellingborough of the daily(?) parcels train that went up the branch. However it was always a short one, usually one bogie carriage and a van. Usually 4F hauled although I recall a BV. I also vaguely recall a 'mail order' warehouse at Rushden so this may be the need for this service. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 - *but* Five Minutes Late have a number of oddities on the workings (including ex-LNER O4/3, B1 and a J6, presumably just passing through and pressed into service from Wellingborough shed rather than a special service) and 8F at Higham Ferrers itself, so together with 3F and 4F 0-6-0s and medium to large ex-LMS/BR tanks there's potential for variety - and larger locomotives at the quieter end of your branch if you want? Even an O1 was pressed into service, by Wellingboro', on a short freight on the branch, but cant remember which copy of the 'Railway Magazine' it was reported in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy618 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Bloody hell gents! Thanks for all the info; I wasn't expecting so much so quickly I love these sort of forums. You post what you think is the most obscure question ever but there is always someone out there with something to offer. So a Black Five with a three coach special or a 4F with a parcels might not appear so radical after all. With the short run-around loop I have I suspect anything over two coaches long would need a pilot to remove the stock from the platform to release the loco (to the shed, possibly) and place it on the other side of the island platform. Stangely I'm finding the building of the history and timetable just as interesting as the building of the layout. Just need to wait for the Farish 4F now... Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I see the transport museum in Rushden is having an event day this weekend http://www.rhts.co.uk/eventslist.htm should anyone be interested... (no doubt their award-winning bar will be open ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted September 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2013 Living with ears shot of this former line I can only add to what others have said. Being Northamptonshire and renowned for it's shoe industry this commodity played an important part on the line too. The '5 Minutes Late' book does have some nice shots of the branch including an 8F standing at Higham goods shed with a train of box vans. Ken Fairey was a prolific photographer of Northamptonshire railways from the late 40's-60's and beyond and some of his collection is on Flickr. Here's the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64518788@N05/sets/72157630560555614/ There's a lot to look through but it will give you an idea of locos and trains that used the line. There's some nice shots of Fowler 3F's coming off the branch as well as a B1 and a J6 mentioned above. Other than that the Coleman and Rajczonek books offer some great photos and captions. Cheers, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy618 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Living with ears shot of this former line I can only add to what others have said. Being Northamptonshire and renowned for it's shoe industry this commodity played an important part on the line too. The '5 Minutes Late' book does have some nice shots of the branch including an 8F standing at Higham goods shed with a train of box vans. Ken Fairey was a prolific photographer of Northamptonshire railways from the late 40's-60's and beyond and some of his collection is on Flickr. Here's the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64518788@N05/sets/72157630560555614/ There's a lot to look through but it will give you an idea of locos and trains that used the line. There's some nice shots of Fowler 3F's coming off the branch as well as a B1 and a J6 mentioned above. Other than that the Coleman and Rajczonek books offer some great photos and captions. Cheers, Mark Thanks, Mark 46444 I'll have to have a look for "5 minutes late"; lots of people are recommending it. And you are right about Kens Flikr having a lot of content. I've never seen such a collection of buses before! Mark D, That's my Saturday sorted! The word 'bar' sold it for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 "British Railway Journal", Summer 1987 issue, had a 10-page article on Higham Ferrers including maps of Rushden and Higham Ferrers stations and a number of photos, including one of an experimental three-car diesel unit which was used on the branch in 1954. Also, you have a PM. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Yes - Googling images for "ACV Railbus" gets you images of the not-quite-a-unit that went (seemingly) everywhere in the SE and South Midlands. Shapeways appears to have a 3D-print model in N - useful if there's a nice Kato mech... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsward Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 "British Railway Journal", Summer 1987 issue, had a 10-page article on Higham Ferrers including maps of Rushden and Higham Ferrers stations and a number of photos, including one of an experimental three-car diesel unit which was used on the branch in 1954. Also, you have a PM. Jim Does this British Railway Journal article have any detailed pictures of motor coaches, particularly the driving cab end? Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 It does, although I can tell you literally nothing about the coach itself. The photo is captioned something like "Higham Ferrers station in the final years of passenger service" and is a view down the platform with a push-pull driving trailer prominent in the foreground. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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