Jack00 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Hi all I have been working on plans to build a class 153 DMU in 7mm scale. I drew the plans and took measurmants from the prototype So far i have built 1 cab end and 1 body side. I also looked at a Hornby 4mm version for window positioning. -some items will be purchased from peter clark models such as bogie frames, headlights, horns, seats etc. I'm currently looking for an appropriate chassis material, something rigid. Perhaps metal or even wood. The 153 will be motorised. I have posted this topic in the 7mm section too. I'll post up pictures of the prototype but for now its just the cab and plough for end No:1 Cheers Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon br blue Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Did you draw the drawing from scratch or did you find some? I wanted to draw a 2nd generation DMU but always struggled to find any original drawings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Simon, I just did it from scratch...lots of prototype pictures and measurmants, also the 4mm scale Hornby version had a lot to do with the drawings...just as i was unsure with the height on the drivers windows/corridore connectors I reckon 2nd gen are a little easier in terms of cab design thanks to the "slice of toast" technique. No smooth curves to worry about on the body side to cab fixings. Hope that makes sence. All the best Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Some earlier pictures of progress. Once primed i think the detail will stand out more. The rest of the body can be constructed and primed too. A very cheap way of building a DMU especially in this scale. So far i've used 1 &1/2 of A4 plasticard...about £2.25 worth. The most expensive part is the gears and motors. Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Little more progress on the body sides and the prototypical curve near the bottom of the body. Tempary pinned into place while it dries. Cab 2 attatched with the lower light clusters. Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Turnbull Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Did you draw the drawing from scratch or did you find some? I wanted to draw a 2nd generation DMU but always struggled to find any original drawings. I find a polite letter to the manufacturer does the trick. Just make sure you explain that the drawings are for personal use only and mark the letter for the attention of the MD using his name if possible. This can be obtained from various publications such as "The Modern Railway 2013" and often the company website. It is also an idea to give your telephone number as I was once rung up by the MD's secretary to check that I was who I said I was, being asked some quite intelligent questions about my model railway activities. You will have to be patient as this will be a very low priority and will be routed via the legal department but they will arrive eventually. I have waited from three to eighteen months. In this way I have obtained drawings for classes 150/2, 153, 170/2 and 156 Regards Chris Turnbull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share Posted September 13, 2013 Hopefully i can progress some more with the 153 soon. Still lots of research for a suitable motor/bogies Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share Posted September 13, 2013 A better picture in more natural light. No1end of the 153. The roof is going to be fun to build with the exhaust outlet and roof mounted pods. The rivets are a challenge to replicate but with care, a cumpas can be used to make dents, or a nail head, obviously not punching the holes all the way through. Although, im not inclined to count them all!! Also holes will be drilled through the light clusters to enable working lights, 2tail, 2spot/1marker at each end.(before facelifts were given to 2nd Gen DMU's) It would also be good to DCC sound the unit. Lots of free space for a speaker. Cheers Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stadman Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Interesting and challenging build, good luck. I shall watch with interest although not my modelling scene (Gauge or era) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Nice one Jack, watching with interest, good luck. GeorgeT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 Cheers George...may need some luck! All the best. Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stadman Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Interesting and challenging build, good luck. I shall watch with interest although not my modelling scene (Gauge or era) that said I do have a reasonable working knowledge of the prototype if I can answer any questions I will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 Thankyou stadman that will be a good help, I'll be sure to ask you if i'm stuck All the best Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Howard Smith Posted January 31, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 31, 2014 Hello Jack, Please see below my efforts at scratch-building a 153 in 7mm. The ends are modified from Peter Clark 156 fronts. Lots of filing and filler! To the left, the modified 153 cab. To the right, the original 156 moulding. Note the LED light clusters. Lenses fit over the LEDs which were turned down in size in a drill in order to fit. Plenty of cleaning up to do yet, but you get the idea. Still plenty to do yet! Best Regards, Howard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack00 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thanks for posting Howard. Will see if I can get hold of 156 cabs. Ive been practicing my brass techniques. Using the card mock as a guide. Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomstaf Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Note the LED light clusters. Lenses fit over the LEDs which were turned down in size in a drill in order to fit. Plenty of cleaning up to do yet, but you get the idea. Still plenty to do yet! Best Regards, Howard Hi Howard, The light lenses look great. What material did you use for the actual lens? Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Howard Smith Posted February 1, 2014 Moderators Share Posted February 1, 2014 Hi Howard, The light lenses look great. What material did you use for the actual lens? Cheers Tom Hello Tom, You can get LED lenses, but they are too big to fit and so need 1mm removing (.5 either side). Rapid electronics (with a bulk order to make it worthwhile) is where I sourced mine. They do look a little better all cleaned up now. Howard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Hi, Are they the 3mm diameter led lens mounts which you have cut down? Cheers Vin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Howard Smith Posted February 5, 2014 Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hi, Are they the 3mm diameter led lens mounts which you have cut down? Cheers Vin Indeed they are Vin. Not much surrounding material was left afterwards. Regards, Howard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettTheThief Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 This I'm definitely keeping an eye on. I'd like to do something similar for a small through-station layout before moving onto a bigger one. Superb work so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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