Dorsetmike Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 A friend modelling Torrington area asked this question in regard to making an E1R from the Langley E5 kit, are there any drawings or good photos about or can anyone quote significant dimension differences (my main interest is ex LSWR not LBSCR), the photos an SEmG don't look sufficient for doing such a hack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm not sure that a Billinton E5 is a great starting point for an E1R. The latter started life as a Stroudley, E1, of course, and had a smaller boiler, max 4' diameter pitched 6'11" above rail level, against max 4'3" pitched at 8' for the E5. The E5 had 5'6" drivers, 12" larger than the E1R. The trailing wheels on the E5 were 4', while those added to the E1R were 3'1". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bedding Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Mike, I built one of these in 7mm a long while back. I will try and locate what notes and records I might have kept and see what information I can provide. I guess there are no 2mm scale E1 kits around, as that would be a lot simpler. If your friend can get hold of 'Branch Lines to Torrington' - Middleton Press and 'Lines to Torrington' by John Nicholas; pub OPC 1984, there are a selection of photos in those that will help. I think there is a SR weight diagram in 'Locomotives of the Southern' by Jim Russell, but I do not have a copy so cannot confirm. This will show wheel base and wheel diameters I think. Yes, there is a weight diagram on page 86, with several photos. A tasty subject for a variety of passenger stock. Hth PB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorsetmike Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 The other similar Langley kit is the E2, Langley produced both to use the Farish Pannier or GP tank chassis, Langley originally designed about 35 or more years ago, things like wheel diameters were more or less ignored in N gauge, you used something that was available; and that was usually the Farish standard chassis with the same fixed wheel spacing used for everything from pannier and prairie through to Duchess and A3, with one of 3 wheel sizes, 4', 5' or 6'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Hi, long time since but as I am looking to do a model of an E1r also I am wondering how far you managed to get with the project. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Many years ago than I care to imagine (certainly 50+), I built quite a nice E1R in TT3 using the Tri-ang Jinty 0-6-0T as a basis, obviously adding a new cab and bunker and a pair of trailing wheels on a lengthened chassis. That makes me wonder whether the new GF Jinty might make a reasonable basis in N. The coupled wheels are about right although the wheelbase is a bit too long - and, of course, you would have to find those trailing wheels from somewhere. Otherwise the front half of the body, including the tank, could be modified, and a new cab and bunker added, as I (and the Southern Railway before me) did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Can anyone confirm wheelbase of the E1R? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Ernie. 7'6"-7'9"-5'6". Taken from the weight diagram in Russell's Southern Loco book -OPC. Paul. Thanks for the information, just need to find an OO 'ready to run' look alike for the driving wheelsets... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted March 31, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2015 Isnt the Hornby Thomas the old E2? Would that be a start? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Colin I'm not sure of the wheelbase. I was thinking of something a bit higher the quality ladder. Maybe the Bachmann 3F. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Thinking about it, the SEF kit is probably the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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