RMweb Premium Ray H Posted December 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2013 Me thinks I may need to be bold and try this label printing lark and see how it turns out. Sounds like all I need to do beforehand is to master how to cut the thick card with a straight rather than angled/chamfered edge and I'll be home and dry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted December 18, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2013 Printing on labels just takes away the need for a pritstick. Its a lot less messy and for things like corner wraps. Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted December 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2013 Another benefit of printing onto label stock, if you use the same type/size/quality, is that colours stay pretty much the same, which isn't always the case with white paper/card stock of varying thickness, as the 'whiteness' of the stock can vary along with the level of ink absorption, and this affects the shades/colours you will get. It is also very useful for producing windows. Stick the window sheet on clear plastic/acetate and cut out where the glass should be leaving the frames in situ. In common with others I also find it better than trying to use glue to stick the thin printed sheets onto thicker backing card, you can wrap around corners/edges much better and get a sharper edge. I have found these aspects to be of great advantage, and especially in the smaller scale of 2mm. Staples have single sheet/A4 labels (the only source I have so far found), but only in packs of 100 sheets at around £11. So my needs are covered for the foreseeable future! Izzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaman Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Sounds like all I need to do beforehand is to master how to cut the thick card with a straight rather than angled/chamfered edge and I'll be home and dry. The knife blade can cause this, look at the blade its chamfered in on both sides, you start your cut with the very thin edge of the blade against your straight edge and it gradually pushes the blade over as it goes up the chamfer, one way round this is to pierce through the card with a small sharp point and cut so far from each side. As for printing to labels I find its ok for some parts, but with the bigger wraps you only get one chance to stick it on without any creases and aligned correctly, at least with glue sticks you can peel it back and try again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted December 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2013 The knife blade can cause this, look at the blade its chamfered in on both sides, you start your cut with the very thin edge of the blade against your straight edge and it gradually pushes the blade over as it goes up the chamfer, one way round this is to pierce through the card with a small sharp point and cut so far from each side. As for printing to labels I find its ok for some parts, but with the bigger wraps you only get one chance to stick it on without any creases and aligned correctly, at least with glue sticks you can peel it back and try again. Maybe using a thicker straight edge would help solve the problem then as the body of the blade would already be against the "ruler" right at the start. Another bonus could be that there is less chance that the blade can climb onto the "ruler" as it has further to climb, so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 You may get a better result using a single edge razor plad and a normal steel rule - it has to do with the angle of the grind on the SERB, as against that on a craft knife. A DIY holder for SERBs is here - http://bigbluetrains.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=7257&p=129952&hilit=single+edge+razor+blade#p129952 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubber Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Me thinks I may need to be bold and try this label printing lark and see how it turns out. Sounds like all I need to do beforehand is to master how to cut the thick card with a straight rather than angled/chamfered edge and I'll be home and dry. Hi, Ray, The second part of Post 14 here might help..... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69653-where-to-cut-scalescenes-parts/ Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted December 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2013 Thanks for the link - I read that post some while ago. I obviously need to try harder. I have a recollection of seeing something about handed marking knives - as used in woodwork - where the blade only tapers on one side, the other side is straight, to resolve a similar issue. Something like that might be ideal save that you'd probably need to spend as much time sharpening it as you do using it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted January 26, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2014 So has anyone had a go at the latest 3 small buildings. I may have an attempt at them tonight. Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I've mentioned it before, but take a look at the gadget I posted here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80574-show-us-your-gadgets/ Scroll down to post #10 Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted February 2, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2014 Well I have built 2 of the 3. I intend to build the last one some time this week coming although its just the weighbridge. The lamp hut has come out quite well. Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Oooh, those are nice. How recent are they? I'm tempted to buy a copy of the mag to get them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted February 3, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2014 They are in the current February copy of the magazine. The next edition is out on the 13th. I must say I am pleased with them, they do need a coat of matt though. Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Thanks, Owen, will drop by the newsagent on the way home... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalescenes Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I have to agree with Izzy, The relief is non existent and its probably the worst scalescenes model I have come across. I appreciate that John is working for Hornby magazine on these designs as nothing I have bought off the website has been this bad. I still built it though . Its not nearly as nice as Izzys 2mm scale one but here's some pics any way. Unfortunately one of the downsides of the Hornby Magazine insets is the fact that I only have a predetermined number of pages to fit the kit on. With regards to adding more depth to the walls, I tried but just couldn't get it to fit easily on the sheets. I was also conscious of trying to keep the construction fairly simple, part of Hornby Mag's brief is to create a magazine aimed at beginners and those returning to the hobby. I certainly plan to flesh out the kits with a few more details before I release them on the website later in the year... John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted February 4, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2014 Thanks for replying John. I look forward to buying them later in the year when you release them. I guessed it was a Hornby mag problem not a Scalescenes one, but as freebies go I have enjoyed building them. Ta Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted February 5, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2014 Unfortunately one of the downsides of the Hornby Magazine insets is the fact that I only have a predetermined number of pages to fit the kit on. With regards to adding more depth to the walls, I tried but just couldn't get it to fit easily on the sheets. I was also conscious of trying to keep the construction fairly simple, part of Hornby Mag's brief is to create a magazine aimed at beginners and those returning to the hobby. I certainly plan to flesh out the kits with a few more details before I release them on the website later in the year... John That would be good. The provender shed is nice to make and the concrete finish is great, I just didn't appreciate how heavy the relief on the sections was until I actually made the kit, something didn't quite look right, and I looked at some prototype shots. Obviously you have a delicate balancing act to perform when producing such items for mags, but it does at least introduce many more modellers to the delights of card modelling, which can only be a good thing.That yours are easily the best is just a bonus.Izzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted February 15, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2014 Well the latest Hornby magazine has been purchased today and I am very impressed with the kit. I am planning on building it tonight and will definitely look out for it when its released later in the year. Photo's later Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted February 16, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2014 Well I've done a quick build on the latest Hornby magazine operation build it warehouse, and I love it. I cannot wait for John to release this later in the year so I can do a proper build. The pictures make it look a lot better than it is, I did rush it a bit. Also some of the parts were a long way out, I know my cutting is poor but the inner end walls were a about 5 mill bigger in both directions than the outer end walls ? i wonder if Hornby magazines printers have some answering to do. I still really like this building though the mix of Ashlar and brick is really good. And one final one with a Hornby shunter to give a better idea of scale. # Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benbow Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Well I've done a quick build on the latest Hornby magazine operation build it warehouse, and I love it. I cannot wait for John to release this later in the year so I can do a proper build. D1.jpg D2.jpg D3.jpg D4.jpg The pictures make it look a lot better than it is, I did rush it a bit. Also some of the parts were a long way out, I know my cutting is poor but the inner end walls were a about 5 mill bigger in both directions than the outer end walls ? i wonder if Hornby magazines printers have some answering to do. I still really like this building though the mix of Ashlar and brick is really good. And one final one with a Hornby shunter to give a better idea of scale. D5.jpg# Owen That was quick, still waiting to start mine! I agree it does look good and just the thing for a lineside industry. Now where is the glue and knife? Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 What a nice building, great job Owen. That's this month's Hornby mag added to the shopping list, then... Only thing is I am going to need a new railway to put the stuff on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I just need to build the factory kit. So far I have built all the others and brought a stack more of the scalescenes website and have built the water tower and gable roof shed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBR Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hello, Any chance of some pics of the water tower? regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The Scalescenes water tower is here. It has been cleverly designed to fit the Dapol tank underneath if you prefer, and that was my plan so I bought the tank as I never thought the card would make convincing metal. However when I built the small engine shed I discovered the textures were in fact excellent for metal. I've therefore built (or mainly built, a few more bits to go on & be painted) the Dapol tower in its own right. I may do without the Scalescenes water tower for the time being. I hope John forgives me, but it will leave money for other kits; I haven't really a logical place for it now; and I have learnt so much from building John's kits I feel I could make a decent bash at scratchbuilding one with another Dapol tank on top - I must have something like 50% of the Scalescenes textures to do so now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddin78 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Hi, I have two questions to things mentioned earlier in this thread: It sounds like the the store is one that was on Scalescenes website sometime ago. The free one which was a wooden building on brick plinths, I believe was replaced by a red or brown brick store, this has also been removed. I do have both of them stored though. COncrete store.png Small goods store.png [...] Ian Does anybody know when the brick store was available and under which model number? I don't seem to remember that kit from Scalescenes althoug it clearly corresponds very well with the Boilerhouse... [...] I did think this evening after I had finished it, I wonder if I bought a digital copy of the magazine I would just be able to print it out on label paper.... [...] Owen Has anybody tried purchasing a digital copy? Are the insets included there as well (and with sufficient resolution) to be printed at home? Otherwise, in my opinion the original Scalescenes PDFs are are more than worth the few pounds they cost. Best regards, Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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