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It doesnt always go right. Sometimes modelling like this can go wrong. Currently a Realtracks 144 has caused issues when the socket for the decoder didnt fit into its reciever on the loco - so thats to be resolved.

 

Here, Broughton - yep, that Southern machine, was scratched when trying to fit the smokebox dart. Just a slight of hand, but enough.

 

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Here the dart is fitted and repairs to a lamp bracket that has snapped due to being weakened by glue are seen. A bit of brass from a nameplate section is cut and used to glue in place. Then painted black.

 

More pics soon on Braunton being finished.

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Hello all,

 

With Braunton almost finished, other engines were done and photographed while the work was going on.

 

It sees the various class 47s almost finished. They have had details fitted to one end, two have been given ploughs, with them at both ends, the middle part cut out for the coupling means they are glued to the bogie, but it looks fine.

 

47535 University of Leicester is also photographed, being named after the Uni I went to. Also is 47798 Prince William which has had its cable touched up in black and will get plates applied. I dont intend to really weather this....

 

Pictures are below. Enjoy....

 

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Hello all,

 

Time for an update on two projects being finished first the Eleventh Earl of Mar. This has had its Westinghouse pump fitted near its nameplate on its off right hand side. As a result, it gives it air brakes for working on the Modern Network, should it ever really need them. Its just another add on for the whole character of the engine, but given this and his Darlington plates fitted for its build on the cab side, it means the locomotive is pretty much finished and now needs running in.

 

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Air brakes fitted....

 

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Build plates fitted...

 

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Another engine pretty much completed is Braunton. After the scrape and hassle fitting a replacement smokebox door dart, the number has been done and the door painted. Theres no scratch but the number 0 in the middle is slightly off owing to making the hole using a etching that snapped. It took some removing and the dart is in place. Theres a slight rise but nothing overtly too large. Its a tad disapointing and I might still file more and tidy it up. For now, Braunton is acceptable into traffic as it will be viewed from distance.

 

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Hope thats all interesting, one of the next updates will feature all about something a little smaller, but altogether equally gorgeous as any other splendid North Eastern region machine....

 

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More soon!

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Most people like big steam engines. The ones that look powerful, sound magnificent when it takes so much strength and power to get away and ultimately reach fast speeds hauling a big load. Throughout design, steam engines have had the job to do of hauling these loads, but with technology reaching its limits the load and speed has been relatively the same since the engines of Scotsman, Mallard, Kings and Duchesses. Todays network sees a number of engines returned to service not quite in preservation, but rather running in a new chapter of employment working the mainline hauling railtours and taking passengers again by steam to destinations. It allows a rose-tinted view of the past and allows some indulgence in the travel of yesteryear, even if operations are very much minded in the present.  

 

Though all this and with the steam engines that remain in the care of select groups the goal has been to return long lost examples to traffic and to return these to the mainline if possible. Obviously, the most well known is Tornado - a fantastic achievement of such a project. The engineering behind this feat is nothing short of excellent and the legacy is insurmountable. Even if some like me question its operational ethos, Tornado has become the benchmark and standard for new build.

 

Or is it? Fact remains that although Tornado is indeed impressive a leviathan like this is not what preservation needs. Rather, a medium size new build would be a better and more economical option for the preserved railways looking for the reliability of a new build that is also able to augment their existing steam fleet. Hence, the ambition in my dreamland has always been to model engines that could return in such a guise. The J39 is one, a J25 or B16 would be another. However, the L1 would be brilliant as a tank design too. So, with a fake engineering company with me, the L4 became the new engine to the fleet. The L1 are not known for their success, being too powerful and with some detractors compaing about pony trucks etc. A new build would address these issues.

 

I have always liked the efficiency idea of standardisation. I love the NER practices that were clearly retained by the LNER. You can see the idea for a group standard tender that came from up north, even if other areas did start on similar lines like Holden at the GE. Fact is that when you put a NER B16, alongside an LNER D49 and B1 you can see the clear liniage in the fleet. Same cab, same domes, same ratio of door handles to smokebox door size. Little ideas like this and attention to detail get my admiration more than the tinkering of designs to things like a P2. These workhorses were built in number and built for the mundane jobs.

 

One area that this can slip is the appearance of that smokebox door. While some might feature a NER style pattern, a la B1, D49, others swtich to different kinds, some due to the builds being subcontracted out, or designs made up this way. I think its a shame that such similarities for uniform appearance like you see on the Western region designs was not retained as to me the uniform appearance seen on designs with such lineage shows the tradition of North Eastern excellence and its influence under later LNER group designs. As a result I think such a change would make engines like the L1, K1 and V1/V3 look more attractive in apperance. Its a door, but its a noticable change to an engines identity and thus could improve its apperance and character markedly if changed. Its all looks really, this is purely academic, but I marvel at how Western region engines retained this.

 

As a result I fathomed that if such engines could be rebuilt that the change in design was specified. The L1 was the choice for this to happen, so with that in mind I looked for ways to make the start.

 

I found that the body was one complete mould that there would be no need or ability to get the door off. Why should there? The fleet was all the same anyway. Only me wants it changed..... to my knowledge at least.

 

So, with this I fathomed that more modelling would be needed. That such an attempt would need spare parts. Then reading here it was suggested that an LNER Hornby D49 door would change for a Hornby new B1 door to swap over and allow me to model the B1 61264 as preserved, but also when running with (you guessed it) that NER style smokebox door. This then gave me a spare door looking quite similar to the one I was after. A spare part to do the swap I was thinking of.

 

The model was left on the desk. Normally Id get round to doing it at the right time. However, returning from the pub one night and finding the model there I suddenly found myself in a mindset to do some modelling. Given my state of mind at the time, the obvious means to get the door of was destruction and brute force. Several filed holes were made into the door and bit started flying off. With the majority of it clear, the edges were all filed down to an extent that left a bit before finishing. Contented with having done this, or at least it seemed so, I bedded down for the night.

 

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Waking next morning and remembering the approach taken I found that modelling at such a state of mind was not so bad after all. The door was clear. I filed down the edges a tad more.

 

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With the spare door I checked how much detail was needed and where it would go.

 

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Then the door was fixed into place, with the edges showing little signs of change. The process was hard to get the two sides to meet exactly, but the overall change of appearance was done and looked improved. At this point the weak plastic smokebox door dart gave way and broke off. Other transfers for the change of identity were also taken off.

 

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Here you can see the change of the door shows the uniform NER style look and dramatically alters the appearance and character of the engine. Photos taken this time around for this conversion are on an older camera so apologies for quality.

 

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With the engine renumbered into a new series, 687xx for the British Railways system, its identity was changed to L4 a Newby/Thompson design that had been given improvements. The door dart has been fitted into place, ready for painting.

 

More updates on the rest of 68701s conversion soon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Here are a couple of more pictures of the L1-L4 conversion that is bringing the project up to date.

 

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The L4 has had its smokebox dart painted black. Numbers and the Late Crest emblem have also been applied.

 

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The front of the engine has been given extra features. A battery box for AWS has been fitted, as has a Westinghouse pump to give the engine air brakes too.

 

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The Cab and coal has been removed ready for fitting of a DCC sound chip. This is currently not available and as a result the project will stop until I have funds to get one. A Howes chip will be purcahsed for this as they have the best sounds for steam and ease to drive accurately.

 

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The L4 fitted out, waiting for chipping.

 

Looking good and nicely smart with its more NER style character...

 

 

 

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Hello all,

 

To be honest there has been an awful lot of modelling going on. What with the class 37s having been looked at, here are some pics of one of the first 37114 being muckied up. A lot of the class 37 fleet has been done, with attention returning to the various steam engines going to be running at the next show in June.

 

Will update on that later, but for now some pictures of 144 looking more realistic.

 

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Class 37s will follow in due course. 

 

In fact, attention has turned to the steam engines. Here, various engines have had extra details fitted such as lamps and headboards. 

 

Some have been given a coat of varnish, which is satin, a lot less than it looks in the gloss like photographs below. If you look with the photo of the P2, Eleventh Earl of Mar you can see 46115 Scots Guardsman  behind which gives you a better impression of the finish. 

 

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I have a lot to update on this thread as an exhibition earlier meant some jobs were done, and some projects delayed. Projects that have started include painting a Jubilee to become 45690 Leander. Other details to engines like class 37s are to add here too. 

 

Meanwhile, a class 58 has been purchased off ebay, for a conversion to a ficticious livery again.

 

So I'm thinking should the 58 go into Colas, or Fastline? Other options and opinions welcome... What do you think!?

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Hello all, 

 

As mentioned above I've done an awful lot of modelling lately with the main fleet expanded recently by some new arrivals. Most of these currently need chipping so their time to join the rest will be a while yet. 

 

Some projects are nearing completion and I have pics to upload showing how these have all worked out. A lot of the last updates were preparing for the show at Shildon and the layouts use there. The fleets chosen for the diesel side came from EWS and DRS hence some work on those engines there. As a result, engines like 47790 made an appearance on the layout, as did 57614 which was not noticed by some as fictitious. 60603 also debuted at the show, the P2 in Brunswick green caught a few out, others not so. Overall the remarks of the engine were highly positive. The engine is one however that will need a motor change to allow better performance. Braunton was also completed and ended up running too, in place of 46115 which failed over the weekend.

 

Pictures here, show a number of the class 37s that were completed before and their pictures need to be uploaded. There will be more in coming days with the L4 projects and a class 58.

 

 

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grime is applied to the side of 37425

 

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37425 about to be treated more to this side too. 

 

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37248 all clean and about to get dirty

 

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paint applied to the roof of the WCRC machine. 

 

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wiped clean with buds, the effect of the first set of weathering around the exhaust ports. 

 

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37410 after weathering. 

 

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37402 in its none standard EWS livery is also weathered. 

 

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37411 although a Celeb was worked and did show up in the north east looking forlorn. Such a shame this engine is no longer with us, as DRS policy a year or so ago saw it consigned to history. Pity when such engines are needed by the company and its return would have been far simpler and cost effective than options its looking for now. 

 

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Grime added to '411 is made to be more workstained. 

 

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37425 gets front bufferbeam details added. 

 

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37114 is another that can head trains as it has its full buffer beam details fitted. 

 

Some class 37s have not had this - to make run rounds easier on the layout, but also allow double headed trains to the layout as well. 

 

More on other projects soon... 

 

 

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On with the updates with recent projects. 

 

A couple of months ago there was a great deal on for a Bachmann Jubilee. First thoughts turned to modelling one of the West Coast machines, with the intention eventually turned to model the engine Galatea. The boiler apparently is incorrect, but given that most will not notice this, I decided to plum on this and go for it. 

 

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The engine was given a breif undercoat. Thinking that the red/maroon that is WCRC non standard colour would be too thin to apply to the engine. 

 

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Views of the engine in grey... almost looking like an exworks prototype!

 

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The first coat of a red from Humbrol went on thinking that it would be closer to the red used by WCRC. 

 

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I just thought the tone and colour was wrong, so on went a colour - EWS maroon which pretty much got it spot on. Whether thats because of the various coats underneath I dont know. In some ways its cost detail, but its a hard livery to get right. 

 

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Galatea with the second coat going over the first and undercoat. 

 

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Galatea is awkward as the livery is very much non standard. Unlike other ex-Midland machines in crimson lake, the engine is lined in black on its tender and cab. This is hard to get right and was done by brush with tape. 

 

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More pictures of the black surround done. The lining would be able to mask the exact joins. 

 

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Numbers and crest are added. 

 

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Lining is then added. I got Fox lining for a Princess that carried Crimson lake. However soon found that the lining here was yellow when on the real thing its a thin cream. 

 

Cream lining was something hard to place and find, so was I to stick with yellow or search for cream. 

 

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Here the engine is seen with lining... 

 

What to do next?

 

Find out soon....

 

 

 

 

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So, with Galatea lined out, but in yellow there was only one option. 

 

Remove all the lining I had just done! Order new - start again. 

 

Cream lining was really hard to find, however I did eventually find some. It meant that Galatea could be completed properly. 

 

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Here Galatea is seen all lined out but in yellow rather than cream. 

 

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I found the yellow too bright and standed out too much. As a result it had to go. 

 

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As a result Galatea needed to be attacked! So I scratched the lining all off the engine. It was not varnished on so came away easily. Shame about the hard work to line it and clear it but it would all be worth while. 

 

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Here Galatea is been partly lined out. The change is already noticable with significant difference in appearance, being far more subtle. 

Areas of the tender and lining on the running plate are still needed in this view. 

 

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Here on the left side Galatea is even less lined out. 

 

Will update soon on Galatea's completion. Some might notice another project that was mentioned in previous posts being underway in the last photographs. 

 

More on all of this soon....

 

 

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Hello all, 

 

With Galatea almost finished and ready to be accepted into traffic, some pictures here from other engines that have been tweaked. 

 

Two engines were purchased from ebay with BR Apple Green, and British Railways lettering. I liked how the apple green looked on the pair, and noticed how Tornado ran with the BR late crest smokebox door appearance. Thinking that it was a good idea, I surmised that it would have been nice for engines to carry apple green, lined out in the style of British Railways late crest. The two engines were then changed, 60164 was Northern Star, with 60540 Orpheus

 

The former faded in light although this I didn't mind as it turned it more into an NER Darlington Green shade. It needed some slight modifications given the work done to 60603 Eleventh Earl of Mar, namely the correct lining on the cabside. This was quickly changed. Also name plates needed to be picked out in Red, rather than left as Black. 

 

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Here the engine is seen getting its plates treated and its lining on the cabside widened. She carries the headboard 'The Northumbrian'. 

 

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Meanwhile 60540 was given red plates. The Headboard reads 'the Dalesman'. 

 

The pair have been seen on shows before, but given the apparance of the Duke, some tweaks to the livery and appearance make them more in tune with other engines of the period - including a certain P2, based on the line. 

 

Hope thats of interest. Comment and feedback is welcome... 

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The new lining on Galatea looks much better. I admit, I don't know much about the Maroons of BR, LMS or what WCRC chose to paint the loco in or whether the original loco BR Maroon is the same as WCRC coach Maroon. I've used other modern livery paints too to try to match.

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Hello all, 

 

Time for another update on the Workbench. 

 

This time its back to a design that has proved to be rather enjoyable. 'L4' 67801 proved to go down rather well at the Shildon exhibition. Only a few people really noticed the engine due to its number being out of sequence. Being still in BR Late crest black, it seemed to blend in rather well. The engine however, is a personal favourite of mine, of a design that should have been made given the L1 was overpowered in the cylinders and if made with a boiler the same as the K1 then reliability would be much like the mogul - my favourite steam engine. While I have mentioned all this before, I return also to the fact that the one change made to its appearance is one I am very pleased with. This being the change to an LNER group standard smokebox door that gives it a more uniform appearance on the face of the engine and can be seen better still alongside other engines going back to NER practice. Here L4 67801 looks at home alongside a B1, A2, J39, and A1, all of which appear on the layout. The Q6 will certainly add to this in the future. K1's did sometimes get a change in door - and plans are to change one to 62008 in future.... 

 

However, the class of engine was normally seen on passenger duties and given my appreciation of other ways of thinking and good design, I decided that leaning to my Western region tendencies again brought more inspiration. The Western region in latter days of BR operation were renown for painting their engines from Black to GW/BR Green, adorned with late crest etc. Given that the types varied in size and duties but remained predominantly passenger orientated it asked the question, what would be the Eastern region equivalent? 

 

I thought on this and decided that classes in the frame for this could be something like a B1, L1, or maybe even a D49... Later it could have been a 3MT-T or 2MT much like their Western region counterparts. However, what would the colour be? I thought that most engines would go from their big four counterparts - in this case blue for the LNER being first. The idea was that BR express passenger blue, could be used and applied to smaller engines around the time. As ever this idea soon expanded. NER Green (over LNER apple green) was an obvious choice for me, while Brunswick green could be used again to create a engine that fits more in with the paint scheme of the time. So it seems I'm looking to model a fleet of new build L4's which would in all honest be fantastic for preservation lines needing a reliable new build engine to operate throughout the season. 

 

In order to start a purchase of a B1 was needed. The last one donated its front smokebox in a conversion for 61267 to become 61264, so another was selected to become 61015 - again for a long term idea of modelling some end of North eastern steam. An L1 was also purchased and had the front smokebox door removed. 

 

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Here the L1 is seen with its new door to the right. 

 

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Two views here of the L1, minus its front door. 

 

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Two views here of the door being tested in place. Again the change of character due to the different face is immediate. 

 

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Views here of the L1, becoming the L4 and its coat into BR Passenger Blue. 

 

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Here the view from the top shows the tops of the water tanks remaining black. Due to this the tops of the side nearest the bunker were also left black so as not to offset the apperance of the engine. 

 

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From the other side the L4 is taking shape. 

 

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Parts on the back of the bunker were picked out in black. 

 

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Standing alongside its sister engine - 67802 poses for the first time with 67801 in black. 

 

More soon on this engines conversion....

 

 

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The new lining on Galatea looks much better. I admit, I don't know much about the Maroons of BR, LMS or what WCRC chose to paint the loco in or whether the original loco BR Maroon is the same as WCRC coach Maroon. I've used other modern livery paints too to try to match.

 

Hi Andrew, 

 

The new lining on Galatea does look much better. Its thinner too as per prototype and as a result looks far more accurate. The model needs some hazard warning flashes to go with the livery as it is applied, but these will be added in time. 

 

As for the colour - Marrons are a bit different. I Thought that Galatea would be done in LMS Crimson late, as per Leander that was running before, but on inspection the colour did not seem to match. I think this shade too was used to do later Midland pacifics in the Crimson late crest livery that some carried. The engine is definately not in the same shade as the coaching stock that have been done. In fact thats what makes me think the whole livery is non standard. EWS maroon matched perfectly, although rumour and some posts online suspect that it is need the correct shade. 

 

Glad you like the conversion. Plenty of others in the pipeline.... 

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Hello all, 

 

Some more pictures now on the L4 67802's development... 

 

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67802 alongside 67801. The lining below the boiler at the front left has slightly come away and needed re-attaching. 

 

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Another view of 67802 being modified. 

 

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67802 from the front. The change of face of the smokebox door makes a noticable difference. 

 

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The L4 from the front left with the smokebox dart about to be replaced. 

 

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'802 with the original taken off and a new dart being put into place. 

 

More soon...

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Another tease... 

 

Coming soon.... 

 

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Will post pictures on the conversion of the above into Colas colours. Meanwhile, the L4 project continues with 67802 basically finished and awaiting chipping. Its been joined by 67803 which has been converted from an engine that I was thinking was going to stay as a genuine L1. However, things have taken over. Instead No. 3 will be outshopped in NER Darlington Green complete with more NER style smokebox door. Its looking very nice but still is in progress. 

 

More on all this soon... 

 

 

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Hello all, 

 

Time for a repaint with a difference. This time rather than the conversion of a steam engine, attention has turned to a what if possibility over a diesel. It was rumoured that Colas rail were looking to get class 58s and return them to traffic. I thought that the idea would prove to be too troublesome, and costly, and it seems they settled on class 60. 

 

In any case I thought it would be interesting to do. 

 

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For the conversion a Heljan class 58 was bought from ebay. 

 

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The engine was given an overal covering of matt black. This then allowed the main colas colours to be applied over the top. 

The angle of the livery was all worked out, with the main colour being from the cab sides. Thanks to Newbyford for help with this. 

 

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Here the engine is seen standing in its plain repaint. Finishing touches and transfers are needed. 

 

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Another view of the class 58 from the other side. 

 

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One of the issues was where to place the main Colas Rail Freight transfer. It had to be in the middle and central much like other machines. I thought about wethering the doors and pannels but it would have stopped the transfers from being applied to the middle and made them off set. A correcting paint job was needed for one side. 

 

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58005 done and largely complete. No. 5 was picked at it was pretty much the depot guardian during my time at University of Leicester. It remained in the UK and could have been an early engine for Colas conversion. 

The engine has also been given a new cantrail stripe done, as well as harzard warning flashes put in place. Other details on the engine have been picked out in black pen, such as handles for bodyside doors. 

 

Now, the engine awaits chipping before trials and put into traffic. 

 

Hope thats of interest... 

 

 

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So, 

 

The L4 conversion project has been in full swing. To be honest, most of the engines are completed and awaiting chipping. The second to be done was the Blue '802. Following the dart being fitted and its numbering completed, it was taken down for some shots of the engine on the layout. 

 

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With the rest of the fleet finished. 67802 has been given some extra warning flashes to the engine. It has been given very high praise for feedback and the fleet is set to venture out over the holiday period to another layout on test. Will bring updates of that later. 

 

Meanwhile the start for 803 did not go well. 

 

Having filed off the smokebox of the L1 and attached a D49 smokebox door to give it a definite Darlington look the initial thought was to paint the engine into NER light green, the idea that this one was more NER styled than the others. I thought that Darlington green might be too obvious so went for early NER green only finding that it stood out for being too bring. However, on a first coat this was looking wrong and in the end would only be confused with standard LNER apple green. Having tried this, I returned to the paint I was wanting to use most. NER Darlington green, or Saxony Green to others. In the end my instincts had been right all along and this shade matched objectives perfectly.

 

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Here 803 is tidied up having been painted and then had the coat removed. 

 

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With the paint still drying 803 wears Darlington green for the first time. 

 

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With the paint pot open a headboard was given treatment. The only green headboards I could find were those for the Southern Region. Eastern region ones were predominantly blue, with others being black or white. I decided that I like the headboard to standout from the paint scheme of the engine it is on. It draws attention to it more and in keeping with character, adds some flamboyance to its purpose. So with the idea that 67802 was to carry the Northumbrian headboard I did not want one blue as the engine was blue, and black as the smokebox was that too. So with 803 being painted I covered the headboard in Darlington green. The result is that the engine now has a green headboard but looks the part. 

 

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803 is starting to be lined out and has its dart fitted. 

 

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Here the Westinghouse pump is added too. 

 

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67803 is now starting to be lined out. The livery is taking shape. Oddly enough, with 803 and 804 there was a time during this stage when i thought the project was going to be a disaster and just look totally wrong. However, I again trusted my instincts and the engine came together. Its now looking stunning. 

 

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67803 being lined out, alongside 67802 in the background, all lined out and now fitted with its Darlington NER green Northumbrian headboard. 

 

Will post more pictures of the L4s soon. 

 

Hope its all of interest. Comments and feedback welcome. 

 

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A few more pictures here of the pair of L4's being fitted out. 

 

The main difference here is the smokebox between the group standard LNER format, like the B1 and the Darlington style door done on 67803. 

 

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Pictures show no. 2 almost finished, with 3 being given attention to its number and frontage. 

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Hello

 

Pictures here from the rest of the conversion of L4 67803 into NER Green.

 

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Here the final stages of the engine being lined out are underway. It wasn't long before the numbers, warning flashes and varnish was all applied.

 

I have to say that the NER Darlington green sits well on the class. Because of this, the A1 and A2 in the fictitious group of engines will be getting the same shade soon.

 

Comments on this are welcome...

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Hello all

 

Finally the last engine in the conversion project. 67804 into British Railways Brunswick Green.

 

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The engine started out much like the others. Getting the smokebox door removed. Like 803 this would have an NER style door.

 

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Its new door is seen with the donor engine.

 

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Here the body is seen prior to painting.

 

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Now the engine has its main Brunswick coat. The light makes it look a lot darker. The air brakes and door handles are added as well.

 

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More views of the engine in its transformation.

 

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Here the front has been tidied up with the white on the running plate removed as well.

 

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Despite lining being started I could not resist a prior group shot.

 

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More of the lining being done to No. 4.

 

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Some photos to compare the two green engines.

 

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4 gets her smokebox door number and lamps, before later being given the warning flashes, cab numbers and varnish.

 

All done. Comments on conversions are welcome...

 

 

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