m.levin Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I will knock 10% off my fees!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 I will knock 10% off my fees!! Thanks, but I don't play golf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew F Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Wow, that Electrostar is looking superb - the underframe detail in particular is very nice indeed. Was that all scratchbuilt? I have some of James's cabs ready and waiting for the conversion to a 4 car unit for Sevenoaks, but haven't quite had the courage to take the plunge with it yet! You're doing a fantastic job with that, look forward to seeing it completed! Thanks TJ. James' noses need a fair bit of filing like most resin stuff but they fit the Bachmann body really well. I had difficulty removing one of the Bachy noses as the glue they've used was strong in places. I spliced the centre car together with thick plastic rather than a metal plate like James used and it's certainly adequate as it's survived a full on drop...oops. The underframe of the single power Electro is not as complicated as one with a pan and I've used thick plastic sheet to create the boxes......quite easy as there's already a ridge on the chassis to fit them on once the Turbo one piece moldings are pulled away. I've also used some of the Turbo's bits in there...not 100% accurate but it matches the vids and pics on this thread good enough. Have a go I say. One good thing is the Bachmann Turbo is straightforward to work with and all the plastic is very workable and glueable... Good luck I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 Tjf, If making a 4 car set, I have seen 2-car Turbo 170s second hand for £45. 3-car turbos,anywhere up to £95. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew F Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I believe some of the Bachmann 170's(maybe the 2 car) have the air conditioning unit for over the cab. Definitlely worth considering if your chosen Electro proto has this. I had to cobble this together and it's a blinkin' nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjf4375 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Tjf, If making a 4 car set, I have seen 2-car Turbo 170s second hand for £45. 3-car turbos,anywhere up to £95. Thanks David, I will indeed be making a 4 car set - I do have x2 3-car Turbo 170s that have been sitting on the shelf for 2 years now, gathering dust awaiting the project! It's only now, seeing the excellent job you guys are doing with your conversion that I have been inspired to get cracking with it. I have ordered some brass etchings to help me a bit with some of the finer details at the front end - this is mostly because I have chosen to model the later units with the larger, combined headlamp clusters, and I figured some etched pieces for the front of the cab might make this look a bit neater. I'll post some pics if and when I manage to get started! It's certainly not a project for the faint hearted though, is it! - it is great fun that there is another layout on the forums that shares much the same rolling stock requirements as Sevenoaks! Keep up the great work folks, Tim Edited January 16, 2016 by tjf4375 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjf4375 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Thanks TJ. James' noses need a fair bit of filing like most resin stuff but they fit the Bachmann body really well. I had difficulty removing one of the Bachy noses as the glue they've used was strong in places. I spliced the centre car together with thick plastic rather than a metal plate like James used and it's certainly adequate as it's survived a full on drop...oops. The underframe of the single power Electro is not as complicated as one with a pan and I've used thick plastic sheet to create the boxes......quite easy as there's already a ridge on the chassis to fit them on once the Turbo one piece moldings are pulled away. I've also used some of the Turbo's bits in there...not 100% accurate but it matches the vids and pics on this thread good enough. Have a go I say. One good thing is the Bachmann Turbo is straightforward to work with and all the plastic is very workable and glueable... Good luck I Thanks Andrew, really useful info here - you've done a fantastic job with the whole conversion, including the underframe detail and the weathering as well which really looks spot on. As I said to David, you guys have inspired me to blow the dust off those turbostar units on the shelf and get cracking with my conversion! I'll post some pics of how I get on, I doubt it will be anything near as good as you've achieved but it will be a good project for the miserable January evenings! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Thanks Andrew, really useful info here - you've done a fantastic job with the whole conversion, including the underframe detail and the weathering as well which really looks spot on. As I said to David, you guys have inspired me to blow the dust off those turbostar units on the shelf and get cracking with my conversion! I'll post some pics of how I get on, I doubt it will be anything near as good as you've achieved but it will be a good project for the miserable January evenings! Better have a chat with AndyF & M.L. If you want to fit running lights to the cab . Buy a couple of Field Dressing,or fill em up with bitumen. Edited January 23, 2016 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew F Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The whole cabs light up. Class 375 torches!........The leds need to be completely isolated from the resin as it acts as an optic; paint on the inside of the cabs make no difference as the light travels within the resin. Martin's built a couple of black lighting boxes that will hopefully fit behind the noses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.levin Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Yesterday Went and did some more work on 375 lighting, with Andy. We fitted directional lighting, interior lighting and door open lighting. Had issues with light bleed but got around that with some electrical magic. Still some more work to do and another unit to complete. but attached is a taster. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Yesterday Went and did some more work on 375 lighting, with Andy. We fitted directional lighting, interior lighting and door open lighting. Had issues with light bleed but got around that with some electrical magic. Still some more work to do and another unit to complete. but attached is a taster. IMG_2479.JPG IMG_2480.JPG Have you bought another one, or shall I post this 3 set one I have on the shelf ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.levin Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Have you bought another one, or shall I post this 3 set one I have on the shelf ? Yer post it to never never land Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Yer post it to never never land Would that be a Midlands post code,then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.levin Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) No it's PI55 0FF ;-) Edited February 2, 2016 by m.levin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjf4375 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 This is looking superb - as I said on David's thread, I love the interior lighting in particular, and the way you have captured the greenish glow of modern coach lighting! Could you advise what type of leds were used? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.levin Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 We used 3528 warm white LEDs, easy to get of EBay. Then the greenish glow comes from the glazing. It is a fine line between the LEDs being to bright or not bright enough. Think we used 5K2 resistors, but can't remember off the top of my head. It's best to experiment with resistance for the right glow or play about with decoder CVs to adjust the brightness. We spent the time getting the brightness right with out playing with the CVs, because if you do a factory reset on the decoders, changing the function brightness CV is something else to change, along with address. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjf4375 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Thanks for the info, that's really helpful It looks very nice indeed, and you did a great job with the brightness. I agree it is worth persevering with the brightness levels, a lot of the RTR models with interior lighting are far too bright I find. This, however, looks spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.levin Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Some pictures of the now complete Class 375 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 The Electrostar, has now been on the Dover Priory layout for a couple of weeks now, again my thanks to Andy and Martin. by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensanchez43310 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Thanks David, I will indeed be making a 4 car set - I do have x2 3-car Turbo 170s that have been sitting on the shelf for 2 years now, gathering dust awaiting the project! It's only now, seeing the excellent job you guys are doing with your conversion that I have been inspired to get cracking with it. I have ordered some brass etchings to help me a bit with some of the finer details at the front end - this is mostly because I have chosen to model the later units with the larger, combined headlamp clusters, and I figured some etched pieces for the front of the cab might make this look a bit neater. I'll post some pics if and when I manage to get started! It's certainly not a project for the faint hearted though, is it! - it is great fun that there is another layout on the forums that shares much the same rolling stock requirements as Sevenoaks! Keep up the great work folks, Tim Hey there, Where did you get the etchings from? Regards, Ben 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 Hey there, Where did you get the etchings from? Regards, Ben Hi Ben thanks for your post. Am not sure where tjf4375, would get his brass etch from,we will have to wait,until he answers,unless you PM him. The cab ends, for the Electrostar, I got from James Makin, a member on this site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANIgale1198 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Can anyone help me. I want to convert a class 170 into an Electrostar but cannot find the resin cabs to start this project. Does anyone know where I can get at least 2 sets of these cabs? Many thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew F Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 There's links on James Makin's post (post 40 on this thread). I don't think he produces them anymore but he may have some spares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANIgale1198 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 There's links on James Makin's post (post 40 on this thread). I don't think he produces them anymore but he may have some spares. Thank you 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I put a link on the Loftus road thread earlier today to a shapeways store showing the cab. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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